Hoffman Arms - Winchester Action Question

03 April 2018, 22:03

Have any of you ever seen a Hoffman Arms Rifle made with a Model 70 Winchester Action anywhere? Either for sale or in a collection?

The release of the Model 70 would have coincided with Hoffman reopening in Amarillo towards the end of the company's existence.

Thanks
Jim

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04 April 2018, 02:23

BaxterB

Uh oh...you misplace yours? ;-)

04 April 2018, 05:13

farbedo

I hope not, that is a purty rifle.

Jeremy

04 April 2018, 05:28

Frostbit

Trying to see how many might have been made if any.

Still got the lovely, thank you.

Cheers
Jim

07 April 2018, 15:54

Jmbrown

I just picked up an Amarillo Hoffman at the gun show yesterday in 10.75x68, it's on a Mauser action though.

07 April 2018, 22:13

Frostbit

quote:
Originally posted by Jmbrown:
I just picked up an Amarillo Hoffman at the gun show yesterday in 10.75x68, it's on a Mauser action though.

Thanks.

08 April 2018, 00:00

ColoradoMatt

quote:
Originally posted by Jmbrown:
I just picked up an Amarillo Hoffman at the gun show yesterday in 10.75x68, it's on a Mauser action though.

Can we see it??!!! Pleease??

Matt
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08 April 2018, 02:20

Jmbrown

quote:
Originally posted by ColoradoMatt:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmbrown:
I just picked up an Amarillo Hoffman at the gun show yesterday in 10.75x68, it's on a Mauser action though.

Can we see it??!!! Pleease??

Hahahaha I'll do a whole post on it soon when I get the chance to get some good pictures of it.

08 April 2018, 06:31

ColoradoMatt

quote:
Originally posted by Jmbrown:
quote:
Originally posted by ColoradoMatt:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmbrown:
I just picked up an Amarillo Hoffman at the gun show yesterday in 10.75x68, it's on a Mauser action though.

Can we see it??!!! Pleease??

Hahahaha I'll do a whole post on it soon when I get the chance to get some good pictures of it.

Thanks!

09 April 2018, 22:18

Atkinson

I did a lot of research some time back on Hoffman Arms, no reference was found to the mod. 70 action ever being used, only Mausers..But that was some time back and it could very well be possible from Amarillo shop time wise..but it,s easy enougn to stick a marked Hoffman barrel on a mod. 70 and make such a claim..Id be very suspicious of such a gun and do my homework on it before buying it.

09 April 2018, 22:50

Frostbit

quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
I did a lot of research some time back on Hoffman Arms, no reference was found to the mod. 70 action ever being used, only Mausers..But that was some time back and it could very well be possible from Amarillo shop time wise..but it,s easy enougn to stick a marked Hoffman barrel on a mod. 70 and make such a claim..Id be very suspicious of such a gun and do my homework on it before buying it.

I already own it Ray. Thanks for the info. The gun was sold originally in 1941 by Hoffman to a gent in Anchorage AK. It was sold then to a second gent who traded it in a deal for a super cub to the owner of Great Northern Guns here in Anchorage. An ex-employer of mine bought it from him and passed it on to me. It is original as from Hoffman except for the stock which was done by Martin Hagn.

Pictures

10 April 2018, 16:43

2152hq

Didn't Hoffman advertise that they'd do re-bbl work on a customers rifle? The bbl would then have a Hoffman name and address on it but IIRC that name & addr was somewhat different from the style that was put on the full custom rifles they built.
Maybe it was just the deletion of the sequential gun# on the re-bbl jobs that set them apart. I can't recall now.
There are some that may have further info over on the Double Gun BBS forum/ under the Classic Sporting rifle section.

I have a Hoffman Mauser 30-06. Plain but classic Lyman 48 sighted rifle made in Ardmore. A favorite of mine and very accurate.
Found it at a gun show lying in with a collection of break open shotguns, sporterized Arisakas, busted Sears pumpguns and plastic stocked Tack-y-cool stuff.

10 April 2018, 23:42

farbedo

Given the barrel contour used on Frostbit's rifle, I would lean away from it being a simple re-barrel. The Winchester stock would very likely not have fit the new barrel.

In 1941, they probably used what they had, or the customer supplied, much like today.

Steve Barnett guns has a german actioned double rifle that Hoffman Arms finished, so they weren't strictly a Mauser shop.

Jeremy

10 April 2018, 23:44

Frostbit

quote:
Originally posted by 2152hq:
Didn't Hoffman advertise that they'd do re-bbl work on a customers rifle? The bbl would then have a Hoffman name and address on it but IIRC that name & addr was somewhat different from the style that was put on the full custom rifles they built.
Maybe it was just the deletion of the sequential gun# on the re-bbl jobs that set them apart. I can't recall now.
There are some that may have further info over on the Double Gun BBS forum/ under the Classic Sporting rifle section.

I have a Hoffman Mauser 30-06. Plain but classic Lyman 48 sighted rifle made in Ardmore. A favorite of mine and very accurate.
Found it at a gun show lying in with a collection of break open shotguns, sporterized Arisakas, busted Sears pumpguns and plastic stocked Tack-y-cool stuff.

My barrel has Hoffman Arms Co Amarillo Texas no. 26. I'd put up a picture but no longer use photo bucket.

31 August 2018, 05:06

Frostbit