Howdy!
First off,this question is not about guns so please forgive me.
You`ll understand why I chose this forum to ask my question
after I get to the point.
Well,I`m currently translating a book from English to another
language for a friend of mine.The book is full of military(Marines)
terms,but translation went smoothly and by the numbers....
Until I got stuck!
Please read these quotes:
1."It was weird.This beebop just stood there after I`d flamed her
completely motionless."

2."He`d fire M40s into the upper jungle canopy and watch the airburst
shred everything below.Legend had it he would detect the Beebops
by smell and even figger the range from a single sniff..."

3."The Beebops knew the bunny dropping trick....."

And now please tell me,WTF is >BEEBOP<????
I`ve checked all available dictionaries,Internet ones included..
zero,nilch,nada,to no avail.
I suppose/speculate this may be "enemy" in Marines` slang but
I don`t want to base my translation on suppositions and/or
speculations.I want it to be as precise as possible.
Can anyone help me?

Regards
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That would be a derogatory term (do Marines have anything else for non-Marines? ) for someone who seems oblivious to what is going on around them.

Can be used to describe a person or an action. Examples: This beebopper walked right into the tail rotor!...Or... This guy was just beebopping along and walked into the tail rotor!

Dittybopper and dittybopping were also common. Basically translated, a dumb shit not paying attention and/or fucking off.

Semper Fi

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Originally posted by craigster:
Dittybopper and dittybopping were also common. Basically translated, a dumb shit not paying attention and/or fucking off.

Semper Fi

Actually I think the most common descriptive name was “shit-bird.â€

We used to call the dumber NVA/VC Gomers, as in Gomer Pyle.

Thanks gentlemen!
I have a new start now.
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Sounds too me like who ever wrote this was making shit up.

For instance:

quote:

2."He`d fire M40s into the upper jungle canopy and watch the airburst
shred everything below.Legend had it he would detect the Beebops
by smell and even figger the range from a single sniff..."

That M40 reference doesn't even make sense. Unless they're talking about Jack Bauer! Then it makes perfect sense.

Usually when I heard the term "Bebop" it was in reference to the way Black Marines walked, as in "Beboppin' down the road". Like walking with a Rythm...

quote:

Originally posted by malm:
Sounds too me like who ever wrote this was making shit up.

For instance:

quote:

2."He`d fire M40s into the upper jungle canopy and watch the airburst
shred everything below.Legend had it he would detect the Beebops
by smell and even figger the range from a single sniff..."

That M40 reference doesn't even make sense. Unless they're talking about Jack Bauer! Then it makes perfect sense.

Usually when I heard the term "Bebop" it was in reference to the way Black Marines walked, as in "Beboppin' down the road". Like walking with a Rythm...

Maybe the guy in the story was shooting at black Marines???

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:

quote:

Originally posted by malm:
Sounds too me like who ever wrote this was making shit up.

For instance:

quote:

2."He`d fire M40s into the upper jungle canopy and watch the airburst
shred everything below.Legend had it he would detect the Beebops
by smell and even figger the range from a single sniff..."

That M40 reference doesn't even make sense. Unless they're talking about Jack Bauer! Then it makes perfect sense.

Usually when I heard the term "Bebop" it was in reference to the way Black Marines walked, as in "Beboppin' down the road". Like walking with a Rythm...

Maybe the guy in the story was shooting at black Marines???

Now that makes more sense. Maybe it was written by a Gook and instead of an M40, the goofball was actually using a B-40!

It’s been more than a couple of years but weren’t the HE 40mm grenades numbered in the high 300’s and low 400’s as their M designation?

Don’t remember a round for the M79 bloop guns marked M40??????

You're right. The M-79 fired an HE round that was designated the M-406.

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Originally posted by malm:
You're right. The M-79 fired an HE round that was designated the M-406.

Maybe the guy in the story was throwing sniper rifles with grenades attached to them into the trees!

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:

quote:

Originally posted by malm:
You're right. The M-79 fired an HE round that was designated the M-406.

Maybe the guy in the story was throwing sniper rifles with grenades attached to them into the trees!

Yup, that's Jack Bauer for you!

isn't the M40 a round for the 203. Seems like
it can be fired or tossed. It did not exist in Nam.
the M40 to me is a sniper rifle and a gas mask.
think what we have here has nothing to do with trees and more to do with what makes them grow.

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Originally posted by invader66:
isn't the M40 a round for the 203. Seems like
it can be fired or tossed. It did not exist in Nam.
the M40 to me is a sniper rifle and a gas mask.
think what we have here has nothing to do with trees and more to do with what makes them grow.

Gene,

I believe the rounds for the 203 are the same as M79 rounds and have the same M numbers. If I remember the color scheme for HE was green case with a gold tipped green projectile. They had illumination, CS gas, and Buckshot rounds also but can’t remember the color codes or M numbers for those.

Did a google search on M40 grenades and look what came up!!!!!

Maybe the author was flashing back to the movie Aliens???

http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=621

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Originally posted by Rick 0311:


Did a google search on M40 grenades and look what came up!!!!!

Maybe the author was flashing back to the movie Aliens???



http://www.yourprops.com/view_item.php?movie_prop=621

That's almost as funny as the blacked out window and candy comment!

One other little tid bit about M79 HE rounds that is important to remember. They are not spin armed so you better be careful of anything they might hit within about the first 50 yards of your position. If you don’t believe me, ask John Kerry!

Aliens???
yes, the guard sgt, down the road. it is a M203
round but I did the same look and came up with the same shit. All I remember about Aliens is I
wanted more tit shots .

Ya know how us jarheads are.


But the round was not there when I was

quote:

Originally posted by invader66:
Aliens???
yes, the guard sgt, down the road. it is a M203
round but I did the same look and came up with the same shit. All I remember about Aliens is I
wanted more tit shots .

Ya know how us jarheads are.


But the round was not there when I was

Gene,

I didn’t really think the Alien’s tits were all that great!

Here’s one, and Gene and malm aren’t allowed to answer.

Where did the names “Jar-Head“ and “Leathernecks†come from?

Rick, I do believe you are correct in that the M79 and the M203 used basically the same rounds.......Marines back in the old, old, old, Corps used to wear leather collars which actually protected their mellons from being lopped off when boarding hostile ships. It was actually a part of the uniform. I believe that Jar Head was a reference to the bad haircuts we always got stuck with

Rick,was up late haveing a or 2 when I
saw it on HBO. Think what I thinking was ain't
no tits in this movie.

quote:

Originally posted by Whitworth:
Rick, I do believe you are correct in that the M79 and the M203 used basically the same rounds.......Marines back in the old, old, old, Corps used to wear leather collars which actually protected their mellons from being lopped off when boarding hostile ships. It was actually a part of the uniform. I believe that Jar Head was a reference to the bad haircuts we always got stuck with

I always thought the term Jar Head came from that little maneuver the DI's would do when they would grab you by your throat and slam your head into things...

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Originally posted by Whitworth:
Rick, I do believe you are correct in that the M79 and the M203 used basically the same rounds.......Marines back in the old, old, old, Corps used to wear leather collars which actually protected their mellons from being lopped off when boarding hostile ships. It was actually a part of the uniform. I believe that Jar Head was a reference to the bad haircuts we always got stuck with

Right on the first and close, but no cigar, on the second.

On the topic I have an M79 round here and will
show it to a young guy who told me the 203 fired
the M40 and see if they are the same.

Gene, lets make it clear on what you have. It is an M118 practice round for the M-79, the blue projo being the key to that puzzle.

Do not want any loony toon fed types kicking in you door.

Hog Killer

"Sounds to me who ever wrote this was making shit up."
"The M40 reference doesn`t even make sense.
Unless they`re talking Jack Bauer."
"Maybe the author was fleshing back to the movie Aliens?"

Wow!What a
Looks like I should have been more informative.

The book I translate is:
"ALIENS-Colonial Marines Technical Manual"
by Lee Brimmicombe-Wood. And YES,it is indeed based on
the 1986 movie "ALIENS" by James Cameron and describes
hypotetical Marines of the future in 22nd/23rd century.
My friend is a fanatic of that movie and asked me for translation.

As to the M40s,if you saw the movie you may remember they were grenades
fired from the grenade launcher part of the Colonial Marines` individual
weapon the 10mm M41A Pulse rifle(Which was actually Thompson M1 with
a sawn-off Remington 870 attached under the barrel,plus half of the
forend from SPAS-12 shotgun.All in nice plastic casing forming magazine
well and a carrying handle)


Now,what does "talking Jack Bauer" mean?
The only Jack Bauer I know is the main character
from the "24" series played by Kiefer Sutherland.

Regards
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quote:

Originally posted by DARTH 44:

Looks like I should have been more informative.

The book I translate is:
"ALIENS-Colonial Marines Technical Manual"
by Lee Brimmicombe-Wood. And YES,it is indeed based on
the 1986 movie "ALIENS" by James Cameron and describes
hypotetical Marines of the future in 22nd/23rd century.
My friend is a fanatic of that movie and asked me for translation.

As to the M40s,if you saw the movie you may remember they were grenades
fired from the grenade launcher part of the Colonial Marines` individual
weapon the 10mm M41A Pulse rifle(Which was actually Thompson M1 with
a sawn-off Remington 870 attached under the barrel,plus half of the
forend from SPAS-12 shotgun.All in nice plastic casing forming magazine
well and a carrying handle)


Now,what does "talking Jack Bauer" mean?
The only Jack Bauer I know is the main character
from the "24" series played by Kiefer Sutherland.

Regards
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That explains it. Remember writers makes up shit. It doesn't have to be accurate for them to use it.

quote:

Now,what does "talking Jack Bauer" mean?
The only Jack Bauer I know is the main character
from the "24" series played by Kiefer Sutherland.

You are correct, I was referring to the lead character from the hit program "24". What I meant was, if the book were about Jack Bauer and a teasm of Marines, then 'anything' would be possible and then it would ALL make sense.

If you are familiar with the program "24" and the character Jack Bauer, then you will enjoy this.

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Killing Jack Bauer doesn't make him dead. It just makes him angry.

If Jack Bauer was in a room with Hitler, Stalin, and Nina Meyers, and he had a gun with 2 bullets, he'd shoot Nina twice.

If you wake up in the morning, it's because Jack Bauer spared your life.

Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas.

If it tastes like chicken, looks like chicken, and feels like chicken, but Jack Bauer says its beef. Then you better believe it's beef.

Jack Bauer once forgot where he put his keys. He then spent the next half-hour torturing himself until he gave up the location of the keys.

1.6 billion Chinese are angry with Jack Bauer. Sounds like a fair fight.

Let's get one thing straight: the only reason you are conscious right now is because Jack Bauer does not feel like carrying you.

Jack Bauer played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.

When life gave Jack Bauer lemons, he used them to kill terrorists. Jack Bauer hates lemonade.

Jack Bauer once won a game of Connect 4 in 3 moves.

Osama bin Laden's recent proposal for truce is a direct result of him finding out that Jack Bauer is, in fact, still alive.

Jack Bauer doesn't miss. If he didn't hit you it's because he was shooting at another terrorist twelve miles away.

When Jack Bauer was a child, he made his mother finish his vegetables.

Jack Bauer killed 93 people in just 4 days time. Wait, that is a real fact.

Jack Bauer won the Tour de France on a unicycle to prove to Lance Armstrong it wasn't a big deal. He thinks yellow wristbands are gay.

When Jack Bauer pissses into the wind, the wind changes direction.

Jack Bauer's favorite color is severe terror alert red. His second favorite color is violet, but just because it sounds like violent.

When you open a can of whoop-ass, Jack Bauer jumps out.

When Google can't find something, it asks Jack Bauer for help.

Jack Bauer can get McDonald's breakfast after 10:30 a.m.

When the boogie man goes to sleep, he checks his closet for Jack Bauer.

Every mathematical inequality officially ends with "< Jack Bauer".

In 96 hours, Jack Bauer has killed 93 people and saved the world 4 times. What the hell have you done with your life?

Jesus died and rose from the dead in 3 days. It took Jack Bauer less than an hour. And he's done it twice.

Jack Bauer killed so many terrorists that at one point, the CIA's Most Wanted fugitive was an 18-year-old pimply faced teenager in Malaysia, who downloaded the movie Dodgeball.

In kindergarten, Jack Bauer killed a terrorist for Show and Tell.

What color is Jack Bauer's blood? Trick question. Jack Bauer does not bleed.

If Jack and MacGyver were locked in a room together, Jack would make a bomb out of MacGyver and get out.

People with amnesia still remember Jack Bauer.

Sun Tzu once wrote, "If your enemy is weaker, conquer him. If he is stronger, join him. If he is Jack Bauer, you're f***ing dead."

Jack Bauer literally died for his country, and lived to tell about it.

Jack Bauer has been to Mars. That's why there's no life on Mars.

Superman's only weakness is Kryptonite. Jack Bauer laughs at Superman for having a weakness.

The bumper sticker on Jesus's car reads, "WWJBD?"

Jack Bauer was conceived by torturing the other sperm until they gave up the location of the egg.

After 7 minutes of interrogation at the hands of Jack Bauer, Tom Cruise admitted that he was gay.

"Remember writers make up shit.It doesn`t have to be accurate
for them to use it."

Yep!Fully agreed,but sometimes it`s quite an enjoyable shit.

"...then you will enjoy this."

BWAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!

Malm,this was HILARIOUS!I have something similar about
Chuck Norris in my e-mail.If I find it I`ll post it here too.
Being a MPFC afficionado I can appreciate good humour.

BTW. As so far I`ve watched the 1st and the 2nd run of "24",but I have 3 & 4 on DVD.
Be sure I`ll be watching very detailfully now.

Regards
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Q - Why does Jack Bauer sleep with the lights on?

A - Because the dark is afraid of Jack Bauer.