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No, I stood on target for 2 or 3 seconds then laid the rifle on the table. The first time I shot centerfire rifles was with a collector who shot only old Lebel and Berthier rifles and carbines, I never forgot the rounds he dug out on battlefields that were duds or hangfires. | |||
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I personally have a friend that has a .38 spec. bullet lodged next to his heart. The round was thrown in a campfire by some 6 year old children who didn't know any better. I hope some of you aren't able to pass this belief on, that cooked off rounds won't even penetrate paper. I can't believe there are people who consider themselves experienced shooters that aren't any smarter than a first grader. velocity is like a new car, always losing value. BC is like diamonds, holding value forever. | |||
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That is a very interesting post... I am not about to tell you it can't happen, but what you are talking about defies physics. I just weighed a .38 Special case, and it weighs right at 68 grains... If you figure the lightest projectile you can get for a .38 weighs 110 grains, there is a definite mis-match: almost a 2:1 weight difference. It appears to me that there is more inertia to be overcome for the projectile to move than the case. Having said that, I have to wonder how the bullet flew out of the fire and hit your friend in the chest, when the case is much lighter and would be more easily propelled than the bullet. And that doesn't take into account that the overwhelming majority of handgun brass is just that: brass. Pretty soft metal... Again: not saying it didn't happen, just wondering how, when it seems to me to defy the laws of physics. | |||
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That is the official story. You need to ask what the real story is. Unless someone has repealed the laws of physics he has something else stuck in his chest or it was fired out of a gun. | |||
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I agree! Unconfined, the round will first make a projectile out of the cartridge case. The bullet will just lie there. Then the rest of the powder charge will burn, just as if a case full of powder were to be dumped in an ashtray and lit with a match. Only if a round were loaded with BLACK POWDER or a high explosive would it actually burst a cartridge case AFTER being completely removed from the chamber... Unless there's something mighty unusual about that ammunition!! Like the C-4 as mentioned above.... "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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It won't even penetrate the paper, nor will it sound like a cartridge firing....more like a big hiss as the powder burns, the case neck expands a little, and the gas pressure escapes, all simultaneously. Must be why firefighters dont get shot when fighting a house fire and ammo cooks off. i agree 100% | |||
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.22rf inside a thin aluminium beer can goes of with a "crack" when thrown onto a fire but doesn't penetrate the can. 7.62x51 makes a louder noise & the case makes a bigger dent in the can than the bullet does. I can vouch for this personally because sometimes I did some (potentially) dumb things.  | |||
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