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Having clamp-mounted a 6x42 scope on my K31, I went to the range this afternoon and was in for a nice surprise. Here are the 2 x 5-shot groups I fired at 100 meters with my handloads (168 SMK / N 140) :


L : 5 in 3,4 cm (1.17 MOA), 4 in 1.1 cm (.38 MOA), shot 2 pulled and called ;
R : 5 in 3,2 cm (1.1 MOA), 4 in 1,9 cm (.65 MOA), shot 4 pulled and called.
Amazing for a 55 year old military rifle. I must have drawn a great barrel. I'll tend to that trigger one of these days though, for as good as it may be for a military rifle, it's not really target grade.


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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
 
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The groups are nice, but it is really a sneaky way to sell scope mounts!!! (Big friendly grin, just pullin' yer leg...)

Seriously, what make is that bolt cover/scope base, and where can a guy get one?


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AC, Probably available from Brownells or Grafs as the St. Marie clamp-on mount(~$100). It may be a less common EAW mount for about triple the money. Some cheaper knock-offs of unknown quality have been showing up too. Best-o-Luck
 
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Can you use the military strippers with those mounts?
 
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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
Amazing for a 55 year old military rifle. I must have drawn a great barrel. I'll tend to that trigger one of these days though, for as good as it may be for a military rifle, it's not really target grade.


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My (detachable) mount is actually a steel EAW of which St.-Pierre made an alu copy at 1/3 of the price and which seems OK too (having very satisfactory experience with the EAW swingout mounts, I tend to favour the brand, cost notwithstanding). This morning, I broke the MOA barrier :

( 5 in 2,1 cm /.72 MOA - 4 in 1,02 cm / .35 MOA).
I'm getting verrry impressed by this veteran and am already planning a second buy. Must have catched that "Swiss flu" they're talking about on SwissRifles.com Eeker


André
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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
 
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Without a doubt the K31s are the best deal in mil-surplus!
 
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Andre, very impressive groups!

I do not reload for the 7.5x55mm because the GP11 ammunition is so accurate.

Have you compared accuracy between your 168gr. Sierra MK handloads and the GP11 ammunition? I would like to know if you find your 168 gr. Sierra handsloads much more accurate than the GP11.

Thanks!

PS - Could you share the loading data for your N140/168gr. Sierra MK handload?
 
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I have 2 k31's that will shoot that good with GP11 I have the st marie mount, and a old weaver k6 on mine. give me some load detail of the 168 smk load??


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Thanks Andre, and everyone else who provided info on those clamp-on scope mounts! Gotta get me one of those.

My K-31 will shoot ca. MOA with cast bullets at 100 yards with iron sights but I have never bothered to work up the best jacketed bullet rounds for it as I think I'd need a good scope set-up to feel secure in the results of that testing.

I already have a "scout scope" mount, but find I just can't teach myself to like that system of looking though an optical sight.

Thanks again,

AC


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Daman,
My scope overhangs the stripper slots, so these cannot be used with scope in place. BTW, if you want to go back to iron sights and strippers, there's only 1 screw to loosen and un-scope. I've tried GP11 & Prvi factory against my handloads and the latter are way ahead. I'm using Prvi cases, N 140 / 44.0 behind 168 SMK and WW lr primers (I tested 168, 175 & 180 SMK but my rifle prefers the 168's).


André
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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
 
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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
Having clamp-mounted a 6x42 scope on my K31...


AM,

I've got an nice K-31, too. Love the way its designed! Will you post us a pic looking down from straight from above the receiver?


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I readily found this pic (BTW, not mine) on SwissRifle.com :

If of no help, let me know and I'll take a photo of my rifle.


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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
 
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This is a picture of my rifle...


Good shooting and good hunting
Collani


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AM, collani,

THX - That helps me see how it would eject.

PS: Here's a look at my K-31.


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Your stock looks in very good shape and devoid of the usual dents and nicks. It's also dark for beech, is this a walnut one ?


André
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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
 
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Your stock looks in very good shape and devoid of the usual dents and nicks. It's also dark for beech, is this a walnut one ?


Yes - Walnut


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