Southern Ontario doesn't require a guide, some of the western provinces don't require a "hired" guide, but instead you require a friend or relative to guide you.
A non-resident alien may only hunt big game in BC when using the services of a registered guide except for one lone exception. A resident can apply for a permit to accompany a close non-resident alien relative, ie Father, Mother , brother or sister.
Posts: 277 | Location: McLeese Lake, B. C. Canada | Registered: 06 June 2003
Quote: For sheep you'll definately need a guide unless you become a resident here
Quote: I think sheep are out, and so is anything on draw
By the alberta definition, a non resident is a canadian resident that does not qualify for an alberta resident license while a non canadian is considered a non-resident alien.A non resident can hunt bighorn sheep with a hunter host(if they draw a non resident license) while a non-resident alien can't hunt sheep without a guide.A non resident can hunt with a special draw license with a hunter host if he draws the special license while a non resident-alien can't.
Posts: 3104 | Location: alberta,canada | Registered: 28 January 2002
Well, in studying many of the States laws, it appears to me that Canadians have many many opportunities to hunt several different species here without a guide, including sheep, if they are lucky enough to draw a tag.
Blue, I'm kidding with you. I myself see little need to hunt the US for sheep. Especially for Bighorn. In fact, about the only thing I have a desire to go south of the border for is a large pronghorn. If US hunters where allowed to draw for Canadian Sheep, you would never be drawn anyway, and those that were lucky enough to get a tag would be wise to hire a guide. So save up the cash and when you get $15,000 in the pot start looking for a cheap outfitter.
Chuck
Posts: 2659 | Location: Southwestern Alberta | Registered: 08 March 2003
"Especially Bighorns" "I myself" Fairly key words. I don't have much interest in hunting the Desert Bighorn right now, and opportunities to hunt Bighorns seem fairly decent here in Alberta.
Chuck
Posts: 2659 | Location: Southwestern Alberta | Registered: 08 March 2003
Just yanking your chain a bit but the desert bighorn is a completely different critter from the rocky mountian variety. I think one could look for the desert variety for quite a while in Canada and still come up empty. This would be one reason to come to the states for a sheep. Not that anyone (even residents) ever really draw these permits.
Best,
JohnTheGreek
Posts: 4697 | Location: North Africa and North America | Registered: 05 July 2001
One thing you might want to do to improve those odds is to get your park service to move some of those sheep out of the parks. When the wife and I were up in Japser a couple of years ago we hit places where there were 40 to 50 sheep right next to the highway eating grass. They were so tame that we actually stopped and rolled the window down and petted some of them because they kept coming up the car. Too bad some of those sheep aren't transported to more remote regions so they don't have to put up with tourists like the do.
Darn, if we don't get a bit of rain and snow around here, our bighorn will become "desert" bighorn pretty quick!
On that note, I tried to enter the draw in NV, but got skunked for lack of a hunter education NUMBER. Alberta recognized my hunter education from Europe, so I never got round to taking the course...never saw a need, until now...tried to reason with the draw people in NV. They were willing to accept all sorts of documentation as long as it read "hunter education" and had THE NUMBER. I figured I might as well give up for this year.
Hello; You might want to ask a guy, I believe his name was Michael Shipley, from California about those Jasper Rams. A few years ago he poached one along the Banff Jasper highway under the guidance of a local outfitter. Parks Canada was not amused. What really took the cake was that the outfitter photographed Shipley feeding the sheep, before they killed it. Grizz
THAT SUCKS! If it makes you feel any better, you could easily put in for a lifetime and still not draw one of those tags (although I believe Keith Atcheson drew in AZ recently). I also actually had a former colleague in Arizona draw on desert sheep one year and his wife drew the next. This is, obviously, beyond lucky! I think one might be better served to try to save the $40K USD necessary to hunt them in Mexico.
Best,
JohnTheGreek
Posts: 4697 | Location: North Africa and North America | Registered: 05 July 2001
Keith drew in NV in his 19th year. So yeah, it's a long shot.
I might try and get my daughter to take Hunter Ed with me this summer...4 loooong days though....but if I ever move within Canada (eg to BC) I'll need it anyway. Not all provonces are as open minded as AB in this matter.
I have never looked for Desert sheep here in BC. By the time I finish hunting for stones, dalls, rocky bighorns and california bighorns the season is almost over and I am tired.
Actually I have looked at putting in tags in Arizona and Utah. I chose these two states becuase I would not have to hire a guide. I would like to shoot the grandslam and not be guided.
There is a way to hunt sheep in BC being a non-resident alian. You must somehow be related to a BC resident. So if any of you guys out there have any cute daughters, I am single and open to offers. haha
Alex
Posts: 26 | Location: British Columbia | Registered: 23 June 2003
Alex, I was told that sheep was unavailable to non resident canadians and non-resident aliens, unless of coarse through an outfitter. I know most other species are huntable through a resident hunter host licence. maybeI'm talking to the wrong sources, but my BC warden buddy says no Sheep for us Albertans, relatives or not. Alberta does allow it.
Posts: 372 | Location: Alberta | Registered: 13 December 2001
Depends on where you want to go and what you want to hunt. However, a guide is the least of your problems. There's a tax just to bring you rifle here. Go here. http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/visitors/default.asp Then here and rummage around for Ontario. There's a .PDF on the hunting regs. Gas is currently over $.90 a liter. Thats close to 4 bucks Cdn. a gallon. About $85Cdn to fill my F150. http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/mnr/fwmenu.html
You forgot to rub it in that it goes further on a gallon as well. Oh yeah,I recalculated.It's only $140 to fill both tanks.I feel a whole lot better now! Dave
Posts: 74 | Location: Nanaimo,BC,Canada | Registered: 23 April 2004
Alberta does allow it.
Oh yeah,I recalculated.It's only $140 to fill both tanks.I feel a whole lot better now!
