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Originally posted by Dewey:


I have no idea as to what a ...POA... is, so, you will have to answer that one for yourself.

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Where on earth have you read this? Having gone through for a carry permit in recent history for work, the list of folks allowed to carry one for work is very short, and didn't include big game guides.

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Originally posted by Daryl S.

The guide/outfitter I work with, along with my best buddy, also a guide, have these 'carry' permits. A local member of the local Rod and Gun Club is the 'tester' for the Mounties on these permits. Both of these men are allowed to carry their .44's while tracking wounded game with the wierdly named German/Austrian tracking dogs they both use.

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Originally posted by Dewey:
No, it does not.

For the last time, I do not hate Americans or the USA, is that so difficult to comprehend? I DO find the American attitude toward Canada to be often unacceptable and believe we should govern our responses accordingly.

By reading your last several posts, I had gained that impression. If I'm wrong, I beg your pardon; but that reenforces my point- you are coming across in that manner. As to the US attitude towards Canada, you do have a point, but your desired response ( NOT all Canadians ) is likely to give you some undesired side effects. How well would some of these communities do with no American dollars in the community? Yes, your products have other markets open to them, and I suspect markets being what they are, if Canadians could get more from another country, they would- as they should.

I have NO issue with ...US protectionism on lumber... and have never posted that I did; I DO have a very strong and negative reaction to the FACT that your nation BROKE THE TREATY you signed with us. The difference here should be obvious and, btw, I choose my words very carefully.

Please tell me where/when we broke a treaty. I'm not saying we didn't, but please educate me, since you know- the name of the treaty, if nothing else so I can look it up.

Now, here is the crux of this discussion and it is really quite simple. I DO NOT WANT American involvement in Canadian internal affairs, on guns or ANY issue. The attempts by Canadian firearms owners groups to involve the NRA in our struggle have "backfired" and given the "anti-gun" extremists here in Canada several opportunities to attack rational handgun ownership with considerable success; simply put, it is a tactical error to have US "gun groups" involved here, as I have tried to point out.

Where did you point that out, sir? All I have read is you saying its illegal for someone to enter Canada with a pistol, which you have subsequently modified your answer, but still you seem to be telling Canadian pistol competitors to not invite anyone to come up and shoot there. I will agree having the US NRA is likely to work poorly in Canada, but if a Canadian organization was using the US NRA's grassroots activism model, it probably would work for you. Different than having the US NRA come up and run a Canadian organization.

What you or any American thinks of me, as in POA, POS or any other slur, blatant or implied, means less than nothing to me. Your comments about people's opinions in Vancouver are baseless and false, I LIVE HERE, my family were among the early pioneers here (1884) and, frankly, I am quite conversant with public opinion here.

Whoa there Tex. Re-read my comment. I called AMERICAN US CITIZENS POS's, not you. Please, if you are going to say I don't make sense, please read what I said. As to my comment on what people in Vancouver think, its like what the average person in LA or San Fransico thinks- its a rural vs. urban thing. I also am quite a bit more conversant in Canadian public opinion than you think I am. Please also read that carefully. I may be wrong in that the majority of Canadians are anti gun, but I know that your urban centers are by majority. If your comments about being in BC in the 1880's is supposed to impress me, it doesn't. Your grandfather might be able to make some statements about 1884, but neither you or I were there. My ancestors have been in the US since the Plymouth colony, and I would no more think I understand or know the mindset of people I don't associate every day in Minneapolis. Please, you need to take a step back and think for a second. Have I even once said that the Canadian people need to run their country as I see fit? Have I said that I have any say in how you vote? Have I said anything negative about Canadians?

I often wonder WHY it is, that so many Americans ALWAYS try to tell other peoples how to do things in their own countries. This tends to alienate people and thus they may comment in rather brusque terms on America/Americans....no wonder. But, given the fascination with promoting their "culture" worldwide that Yankees have, I expect that we will suffer from this for quite some time to come......

I don't think I said we should run your country any way, did I? Actually, you are right, Canada should run itself as the soverign nation it is... And, surprise! it does. What do you think about the Quebecois? Are they Canadian enough?

There really is NO sound reason to allow Americans to carry guns in Canada and I am against any policy or law that favours this. The LAST thing we need in Canada is a bunch of Yankees packing guns and spewing even more of their typical braggadocio. This does not apply to legal hunting clients and their rifles and shotguns, who are here for only a short time.

What do you mean by "carry guns?" I brought a pistol in to Cnada for the lawful, legal purpose of shooting a IPSC match, at the invitation of Canadian citizens, are you denying them the right to associate with others? Is foreign huters hunting in Canada illegal? Nope. I was invited to do that as well. If you are suggesting that a US citizen should not carry a gun for self defense, I could argue the point semantically, but as you have pointed out, its illegal in Canada to carry for self defense, except in some very limited sense. That's fine, I would not expect any right in Canada that a Canadian could not exercise. As I said in my initial post here, I WILL follow the law as it exists locally. Its only the polite thing to do as a guest. Your last sentence is the first time I have seen you admit (in several threads) that you might not refuse admission to the American sportsmen that come to Canada for a visit. Thanks for that change, but it disagrees with your above point- no Americans, no how. Again, have I said anywhere that you could not run your country as you (collectively) see fit? I would also point out that when you are saying that you and a majority of Canadians feel that the US people should stay out of Canada, last I saw, you are a democratic society...Why has it not happened yet?

Now, this discussion has, IMO, been thoroughly presented here and I have posted my opinions and am tired of it. There is very little more to say and I do not want to waste time in a fracas about the relative merits or lack thereof of Canada and the USA....BTDT.

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Daryl, do you work for MS and what is the name of those dogs? I am just getting my big boy Rottweiler into packing and tracking, a damm useful thing in BC hunting.