Anyone every hunt with Jim Shockey's outfits? Rogue River area or somewhere else?
Recommendations?
Thoughts?
Experiences?

I haven't hunted there but the area is good. It is like any other decent moose area in the Yukon.
the moose per square mile is quite low but you can see for miles.
The success rate is no better then anywhere else. Weather can really dictate success on a moose hunt.
I don't think you can go wrong if you decide to book with Jim.

What species are you looking at hunting? Jarrett Deuling in the next area south has some great moose!

tell us how you want to hunt and then you will receive ...

argo, horse,atv, boat ...

i think the area is a little overpriced but you pay the name tag ...

I hear his moose hunts are about 50 percent successful . Less than that on deer!

Thanks guys!
I am not hearing any ringing endorsements...
I appreciate the wisdom of AR!!!

I met one of his bear guides in the NWT on a sheep hunt. He wanted no part of the moose hunts. I am not sure why.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I met one of his best guides in the NWT on a sheep hunt. He wanted no part of the moose hunts. I am not sure why.

results are not as good as the show shown and there is a lot of work involved on moose hunting and this is heavy load ...

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Originally posted by chuckmaxman:
I hear his moose hunts are about 50 percent successful . Less than that on deer!

maybe 10% for locals ...

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Originally posted by dogcat:
Thanks guys!
I am not hearing any ringing endorsements...
I appreciate the wisdom of AR!!!

He does not advertise here, or his success rate might be 100%

I contacted Mr. Shockey and here is his response.



Answer this Way.
"Hey everyone on Accuate reading this. It's Jim Shockey. Have say I got a giggle out of the comments. Sheesh guys! Didn't your mothers ever tell you gossip is the friend of nobody??? The question Dogcat asked was 'Has anyone ever hunted with me'...and the answer all of you should have given was no.
Dogcat, our client success rate has averaged 90% for the last ten years on moose that have averaged 61-inches. Generally one or more of our bulls will be in the top three taken in the Yukon. Same for our caribou and grizzlies. My Rogue River area has the highest quota for moose in the Yukon outfitter territories, which is based on moose population. As for price, you aren't paying for my name! I throw that in. You are paying for a remote area with great moose. Professional pilots and the best guides we know. Last thing, our moose hunts can be tailored to suit the physical capabilities of the hunter.
Sorry one very last thing, I'm a huge fan of this site!!! Always have been. Just don't get involved with the dialogue, until today. Love everyone's quotes as well.

Well colour my reading skills red, I think. When dogcat asked about "somewhere else" or "Recommendations" I read into that he was looking for recommendations elsewhere in the Yukon as well. Upon second reading I'm still not certain but perhaps he just meant other Shockey areas. If that's the case then my answer is indeed "no" but if he was looking for other areas in the Yukon too, then see above.

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
Well colour my reading skills red, I think. When dogcat asked about "somewhere else" or "Recommendations" I read into that he was looking for recommendations elsewhere in the Yukon as well. Upon second reading I'm still not certain but perhaps he just meant other Shockey areas. If that's the case then my answer is indeed "no" but if he was looking for other areas in the Yukon too, then see above.

LMFAO!! Polish that apple!

glad to see that someone is speaking for rogue river. i will also answer some points.

as a local leaving in the Yukon we got a pretty good idea how the outfitters run their business on the hunting side and how sometimes they interact with local hunters ...

i had the chance to go on rogue river area between 418 and 448 ( i cant go anywhere there as the outfitter asked the air charter company to stop to fly locals ...)

now most of the outfitters are not publishing anymore their prices so it will hard to get a picture without contacting them ... but doing your homework is the part of the travel ...

i do not see why it will be more expensive to fly to rogue than Deuling, widrig, Mac Millan, BPO etc ... Yukon is isolated in most of his part (around 90%) ...

now on the results and despite the demand of the locals hunters we do not know the quotas given to the outfitters nor the result of their hunts (success). do not know how many hunters with rogue for moose but at least two came empty handed (doesnt mean that they didnt have a good hunt) this fall.

again the prospective hunter needs to ask the questions about where to go and with whom and the way he wants to hunt and of course check references not only the ones (outfitters or salesman)) that speak high or make the biggest promises (not related to rogue but in general).

i cant answer those questions for the hunter but unless there is a change this coming spring you cant hunt with horses on the concession of Jim ...

a shame that Jim is not coming directly to talk about it ...

If you go to the Yukon Outfitters Association www.yukonoutfitters.net you will find a list of outfitters and a map that shows the locations of their guiding territories.

There is a chance of taking a big bull in most remote parts of the Yukon, but if a huge bull was my goal, I would be looking north of Dawson City in the Ogilvies.

As for price. Make sure you check what is included in the hunt cost and what is extra........ they all vary.......... but in the end expect to be dropping somewhere between 22K and 30K by the time the dust settles.

Thanks for the help and replies. Kathi, thanks for passing to Jim. I have sent a couple of emails to his website and have not seen a reply. No big deal. I would eventually track him or his person down to talk details.

Thanks to all for the help on this.

Jim and Evie are some of the very best positive influences in our hunting world and that means a lot and it certainly does not hurt to support them as well. There simply are very few outfitters with their public recognition and they do an outstanding service for all of our short and long term benefit. In addition, they have one of the best hunting shows ever. I never miss an episode.

I say Jim should become a member here!

Too bad we don't have guys like this around anymore. Never heard of him till I found an autographed copy of Hunting in the Yukon, in the wall of a house I was renovating. They don't make moose like that anymore.

http://explorenorth.com/articles/jbond.html

Grizz

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Jim and Evie are some of the very best positive influences in our hunting world and that means a lot and it certainly does not hurt to support them as well. There simply are very few outfitters with their public recognition and they do an outstanding service for all of our short and long term benefit. In addition, they have one of the best hunting shows ever. I never miss an episode.

Absolutely, their positive influence on the future of hunting globally is huge.

Eva has also brought an entire group of female hunters out of the dark and made it "cool" to be a lady hunter who provides good clean protein for their family.

With 3 young daughters to raise I am very thankful to have a role model like Eva to point my daughters towards rather than the load of trashy tramps that the mainstream media have been licking up all the years.

I cringe when I think of all the parents that were pro "Hanna Montana" until she tore her clothes off and started riding anything in sight.

Great effort Jim, Eva and Crew.

Big Thumbs Up

Ross, New Zealand may still have a moose or 2. Now don't let the fact that nothing has been reported shot since 1954. If you believe the science( I do) and the DNA then we do still have moose.
AND if that doesn't work we still have stags ,Tahr fallow chamois etc as back ups.not to forget Rusa.
Big Fallow are many moose!

Awww man

Dogcat hunting with Jim Shockey - what a blast. I bet you would score a big moose too. When I watched his and Evas show it looked tuff up there on my beat up legs but big time fun too.

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Originally posted by highlander:
Ross, New Zealand may still have a moose or 2. Now don't let the fact that nothing has been reported shot since 1954. If you believe the science( I do) and the DNA then we do still have moose.
AND if that doesn't work we still have stags ,Tahr fallow chamois etc as back ups.not to forget Rusa.
Big Fallow are many moose!

Gearld,
You got one close by? I would rather go to NZ and hunt there- like the weather and the wonderful people!

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Originally posted by Kathi:
I contacted Mr. Shockey and here is his response.



Answer this Way.
"Hey everyone on Accuate reading this. It's Jim Shockey. Have say I got a giggle out of the comments. Sheesh guys! Didn't your mothers ever tell you gossip is the friend of nobody??? The question Dogcat asked was 'Has anyone ever hunted with me'...and the answer all of you should have given was no.
Dogcat, our client success rate has averaged 90% for the last ten years on moose that have averaged 61-inches. Generally one or more of our bulls will be in the top three taken in the Yukon. Same for our caribou and grizzlies. My Rogue River area has the highest quota for moose in the Yukon outfitter territories, which is based on moose population. As for price, you aren't paying for my name! I throw that in. You are paying for a remote area with great moose. Professional pilots and the best guides we know. Last thing, our moose hunts can be tailored to suit the physical capabilities of the hunter.
Sorry one very last thing, I'm a huge fan of this site!!! Always have been. Just don't get involved with the dialogue, until today. Love everyone's quotes as well.

Well , that takes care of it. Kathi , if you didn't call Jim and get his response , this thread would've gone on for pages....

Jim being professional, in my opinion could've answered a bit friendlier, offer ideas etc. instead of sounding like being butt hurt
It was almost like " How dare you people discuss me"
Anyway, that's how I perceived it

I like his show, and his daughter is a positive influence for hunting with her attitude and enthusiasm. I have not hunted with any of his outfits, but I did contact the website a few years back, and received no reply. I realize that this does happen with outfitters, in fact, if I ask 10 outfitters for info via e-mail, I am lucky to get 6 replies, so I really can't fault him for that. This being said, I believe Shockey to be one of the most genuine hunting personalities out there, and especially appreciate his respectful approach to both the game and the people he hunts with.

I would love to hunt with Jim Shockey's outfits one day- he and his entire family seem like good, genuine people, not sure why some people here and on other forums want to tear them down.

Hell, my mother never watched a hunting show in her life with my father until she watched one of Shockey's shows. She still misses Hal and Len, too. If they can entertain someone with 0 interest in hunting themselves, they should be entertaining to most people with a strong interest in hunting, unless jealousy gets in the way.

These are suppose to be wilderness hunts but most of the hunting in done with argos. Do you realize that these argo tracks will be seen from the air for hundreds of years. Our great great great grand children will be able to see them. Argos should not be used in these types of areas.

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Originally posted by Derby:
These are suppose to be wilderness hunts but most of the hunting in done with argos. Do you realize that these argo tracks will be seen from the air for hundreds of years. Our great great great grand children will be able to see them. Argos should not be used in these types of areas.

Huh?

So a horse doesn't do the same thing?

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Originally posted by Derby:
These are suppose to be wilderness hunts but most of the hunting in done with argos. Do you realize that these argo tracks will be seen from the air for hundreds of years. Our great great great grand children will be able to see them. Argos should not be used in these types of areas.

You ever been there?

Grizz

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Originally posted by Cougarz:

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Originally posted by Derby:
These are suppose to be wilderness hunts but most of the hunting in done with argos. Do you realize that these argo tracks will be seen from the air for hundreds of years. Our great great great grand children will be able to see them. Argos should not be used in these types of areas.

Huh?

So a horse doesn't do the same thing?

No way; I have hunted with horses in the Yukon and they don't make a trail when taken off trail. I haven't hunted with Argos but have hunted with ATVs in Alaska, and even one trip off trail makes a new one.

Ross,
Jim just left here a couple weeks hunting lynx. First class guy all around. We did talk moose and I would have no problem booking a hunt with him. A really great chance at a large moose. Their kill rate is up there with any of the best outfits.

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Originally posted by chuckmaxman:
I say Jim should become a member here!

Jim is probably smart not to get involved with any outdoor forums. I have witnessed quite a few "celebrity" outdoorsman lose a huge amount of respect just because their ego gets in the way of reasonable interaction.

leave the horse alone, he does no more damage than an elk, moose or mouse!! shame on you! even the USFS and BLM know that and they are Govt Agency and that alone makes my case!

I hunted with Rogue River and had a tremendous time. I shot a big bull moose and two wolves. More than willing to visit with you about it. An amazing experience for sure.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
leave the horse alone, he does no more damage than an elk, moose or mouse!! shame on you! even the USFS and BLM know that and they are Govt Agency and that alone makes my case!

You can take a horse into wilderness areas but can't even ride a mountain bike into one.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
leave the horse alone, he does no more damage than an elk, moose or mouse!! shame on you! even the USFS and BLM know that and they are Govt Agency and that alone makes my case!

You can take a horse into wilderness areas but can't even ride a mountain bike into one.

AZ, But that has nothing to do with the trail left by the horse versus the Argo. No machinery of any kind is allowed in a wilderness area or permanent structures, nothing more.

My point in my original post wasn't meant to be negative on horses, I have owned and ridden horses for many years in wilderness areas. Rather it was meant to bring up the point that an Argo with its fairly light ground pressure would leave no more of a mark on the terrain compared to any animal.

Seasons are short in the north so unless you drove an Argo all day every day in the same spot I can't imagine any lasting sign being left by its passage.

Ray, it's all good, I didn't intend in any way to sound anti horse!