I guess this fits in this forum the best, question concerning alcohol limit coming from U.S. into Canada. If I understand it right, you can only bring one case of beer for each person that is over 19. Going to a fishing outpost and the price of beer is way overboard up there. I thought about taking the chance in taking up what we need since we have never been checked before but if we go that route I know we will probably get checked. A case is $18 here and If I remeber right it was 38$ there last year. I also heard that we can pay a duty at the border on extra beer but that probably would equal out to buying there in the first place. Any suggestions on the duty tax or other?

Take all the beer you want.....declare it and pay the duty!!!

Trying to smuggle it across is just plain stupid.....it's not worth the hassle ever!

Been there done it a lot!!!!

If you take in hard liquor....take a liter free of duty and get it at the duty free store at the border.....buy the rest you want once across the border.....it's less costly that way!

FYI I'm a nondrinker.....totally....but I fished there in Canada for years with several folks that drank nothing but Lienenkugels.....and a case per day per person was the rule.....it was cheapest to declare it and pay the duty.

Canadian beers like Molson and LaBatts and Moosehead is excellent stuff and easily worth a few extra bucks just to try it.....

Does anyone know what the duty costs are?

Cross the border and go to the local liquor store. Way better beer.

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Originally posted by Bayou:
Does anyone know what the duty costs are?

if you have to ask.....you should quit drinking

It's about 1/3 the cost of Canadian beer

If you have to ask......You should quit drinking?

First off I didn't know and it was a reasonable question, I have never went that route before. Get a grip, some people ask questions to gain knowledge not smart remarks.

When I crossed the only thing they were concerned about was the one rifle I had.. My wife had 5-6 bottles of wine roughly $100 dollars plus of wine in the truck also had 8 compound bows.. Again the only questions asked how many rifle is it locked up and it's not loaded... Best thing to do is stop at the duty free store and ask well thats if the border crossing you are crossing has one..

Anyone, from a foreign country, such as the U.S.A., who wishes to enjoy the PRIVILEGE of hunting, hiking, climbing, skiing or fishing in Canada, SHOULD be prepared to PAY the various taxes, duties, licence fees, etc., that our governments charge.

Anyone,who objects to this and feels that they have some "right" to utilize Canadian wilderness/resources on THEIR terms,should stay home.

Canada is NOT an "annex" of the U.S.A. and we do things differently; I see NO reason to allow Americans any exemptions from our border regulations, taxes or various laws.

Seriously, I went to the liquor store yesterday brought a case of sleeman in bottles $22. I wouldn't even worry about bringing booze up. If it's only a couple of dollars more. And it's stonger than wimpy american beer, HAHAHAHA. All you have to do is go to the liquor store up here before you go to the lodge. Good Beer up here: Keiths, Sleeman Hony brown, Rickers red and hony brown, Canadian and you can still get Bud if you want. Have fun.

No Rednecks up here, jusy freindly Canucks right Dewey.

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Originally posted by Bayou:
I guess this fits in this forum the best, question concerning alcohol limit coming from U.S. into Canada. If I understand it right, you can only bring one case of beer for each person that is over 19. Going to a fishing outpost and the price of beer is way overboard up there. I thought about taking the chance in taking up what we need since we have never been checked before but if we go that route I know we will probably get checked. A case is $18 here and If I remeber right it was 38$ there last year. I also heard that we can pay a duty at the border on extra beer but that probably would equal out to buying there in the first place. Any suggestions on the duty tax or other?

I think you are comparing a 12 to a 24. We seem to be getting some odd size cases, but the price per can, is still about the same. Why bring American dishwater, when you can enjoy real beer, complete with alcohol? In Albert at least, we have a small brewery, Bigrock, makes a top notch product, at multi nat prices.
Grizz

And the last question they asked me how log would i be in Canada I told them however long it takes to get thru canada to alaska which turned out to be 4.5 days... But I tell you B.C and YT soem of the prettiest country I have ever seen beautiful I would love to retire there I don't need a pistol hahaha and the Canadian's were very nice and polite hell jsut pay the taxes I did and didn't care besides the american dollar is very weak there i think it is only worht 95 cents there and the canadian dollar is worth 1.05 in the states something like that. So with that I have one question why is cheese so expensive there???

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So with that I have one question why is cheese so expensive there???

Beer and cheese are so expensive here because we include flavour in the process of making them...lol

Three things that Americans definitely don't have figured out yet are beer, cheese and coffee.

My grandfather, who came to BC from Milwaukee, USA in 1893 WAS a "brewmaster"and returned there in 1898 to take his final training and then came back to BC. He had his own brewery and his uncle also had one which is now the outfit that makes the swill known as "Kokanee", one fo the worst "beers" available.

The Americans DO know how to make SUPERB beers, the largest ethnic conponent in their population was and STILL IS, GERMAN and nobody can beat the Germans at brewing....or building rifles, binoculars, scopes, mountain boots and numerous other vital tools of civilized life.

So, I kinda think that, while SOME Canadian beer IS superb, the USA ALSO has great brews and I only regret that I cannot help those worthy Yanks DRINK vast quantities of it!!!!

Where are you going in Canada? It makes a big difference. We go up caribou hunting in Quebec each year. Ontario beer prices are about $38.00 per case. If you buy your beer in Quebec you only pay about $18.00-$22.00 per case. But, the farther north you go, the steeper the price. If you are going caribou hunting, do not buy beer in the bottle. Cans only and make sure they are in a good cooler. The bottle tops will twist off and your cooler will have frozen beer all over. Good Luck!

Will be going up through Ontario, $38 is double what I pay for a case here. Most people here already said just pay the taxes but I guess I'm the only one that thinks paying double is crazy. If the duty was only $5 a case then no big deal, I'm talking about 6 cases for myself and that is $228 compared to $108 here. A rip off if you ask me or just them taking advantage of someone. Does anyone know there price for their beer there?

Dewey---First off "ENJOY THE PRIVILEDGE", Yes I do like fishing and hunting in your country. I don't feel that I have the right to utilize your country as I see fit. And yes I know that Canada is not an ANNEX of the U.S. and I will more than likely just pay the duties or your COUNTRIES CHARGES. I am not asking for for an exemption but only a better understanding or if anyone has ever taken more than they were supposed to.

Your post struck a nerve and I rarely speak what I think on here but here it goes. Did you ever stop and think that you are lucky (PRIVILEDGED) to be living next to us not having to worry about your safety or security from threatening countries. I wonder how the impact of having the GOOD OL USA not visiting your country, stricter importing fees--regulations would effect your economy. You sound as though you have a hidden hatred for the U.S.A., Anyway think what you want life is to short.

Actually, the ONLY nation that has EVER threatened OR invaded Canada IS the USA; I know as a number of my direct ancestors were involved when we kicked your Yankee asses out...every time.

I am NOT impressed by Yankee bullschit about ...safety and security...or "keeping the world free"as it is a cover for your rapacious grabbing of the raw resources of other nations. Why don't you "free" Tibet, for example?

I have no hatred for the USA or Americans at all; it is attitudes like YOURS with your assumption that YOU have some major impact on OUR economy by fishing/hunting here.

You seem to think that YOU have the "right" to question OUR laws, taxes, duties or ANYTHING here; this I find all too typical of a type of Yankee that I do not want in Canada. I refer specifically to ...if the duty was only five dollars a case...A ripoff if you ask me or just them trying to take advantage of someone...

As to economic impact, should we discuss the treaty-breaking behaviour of your government over "softwood"? In short, think what YOU want, it is MY country!

Safety and security, like your attempts to claim right of passage in OUR Northwest Passage?

IF, you DO come, watch your mouth about "protecting Canada" as making a comment like this here can get your ass kicked, real damm fast!

Guys We have two of the greatest countries in the world. The fact that we can move relatively freely from one country to the other and even take firearms from one to the other is a testimoney to the friendship our countries enjoy. Yes there are some issues that need a little attention and hopefully they will get straightened out. I find some of the bickering that goes on to be rather childish . The way this world is going I'm afraid the day is going to come all too soon that people on both sides of the 49th are going to be dam glad we have each other for neighbours. I just wish we could all put more effort into fixing some of the things that need fixed and a whole lot less into the bickering. My 2 cents and everyone have a good day no matter what brand of beer you are enjoying.

Well Dewey I am a proud American, whether it be in your country or another I will voice my opinion and if someone doesn't like it we can come to an understanding one way or another. But honestly I do see why your country does over charge (mildly putting) us for bringing certain products, because they can. Because they can doesn't make it right, I don't care how you look at it. "Each his own"

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Originally posted by snowman:
Guys We have two of the greatest countries in the world. The fact that we can move relatively freely from one country to the other and even take firearms from one to the other is a testimoney to the friendship our countries enjoy. Yes there are some issues that need a little attention and hopefully they will get straightened out. I find some of the bickering that goes on to be rather childish . The way this world is going I'm afraid the day is going to come all too soon that people on both sides of the 49th are going to be dam glad we have each other for neighbours. I just wish we could all put more effort into fixing some of the things that need fixed and a whole lot less into the bickering. My 2 cents and everyone have a good day no matter what brand of beer you are enjoying.

*VERY* well said!!
Thank you.
Alex

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Originally posted by Bayou: Because they can doesn't make it right, I don't care how you look at it. "Each his own"

THIS is EXACTLY the type of rhetoric that I find offensive and it is WHY I am now opposed to ANY further American hunting/fishing in Canada.

I won't belabour the point further, however, I think that this type of attitude is all too prevalent on various hunting forums .

Best solution, guys like Bayou should stay home!

Bayou You are asking why some things in Canada (like booze and smokes)cost more. The biggest reason is we have a universal health care system. One that the federal Gov't is supposed to fund. Well its no big secret on either side of the border that if you drink and or smoke excessively you are going to have health concerns. If you don't have a health care system you will need an insurance plan. Since the Canadian Gov't pays for our health care they add extra taxes to the products like smokes and booze that contribute to the health care problems.

That makes since Snowman, just doubling prices seem unreal. Time to put this to rest, Have a place ready for me DEWEY. I'm coming up for another great week of fishin.

You are a real piece of work and the type of loudmouth American who is hated worldwide due to your ignorant, peckerwood, white trash behaviour. Keep it up, azzhole, with every post you alienate good Canadians and decent people on both sides of the 49th..."Yanqui Go Home"....never hear that about Canucks......

It's pretty easy to sit and call people names by just typing from a computer, I was sincere when I said IT'S TIME TO PUT IT TO REST. Even though I don't agree I will not sit here and name bash you DEWEY, honestly it shows character or lack there of when you act and talk like that. Not agreeing is my choice, and to the names you want to label, I say this and this only, "If you ever get down around South West Ohio, we will talk. Lighten up Dewey there is always two sides of a fence.

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Well Dewey I am a proud American, whether it be in your country or another I will voice my opinion and if someone doesn't like it we can come to an understanding one way or another. But honestly I do see why your country does over charge (mildly putting) us for bringing certain products, because they can. Because they can doesn't make it right, I don't care how you look at it. "Each his own"

Bayou...it works both ways...we are only permitted to bring a certain quantity south without paying duty....it all comes down to each country wanting their share of the taxes. Not many things that don't work both ways at the border.

Bayou..
Come on up.. Have a great time. If it was not for people like you, our country would be worse off.
Ignore Dewey, every village has one.

However just know that going south is sometimes as big of a pain in the AZZ. Form 6 SUCKS!!
And you cant come to Canada with a Drunk driving conviction and you cant go the USA if you got nailed with a personal amount of pot..
I think both countrys need a bit of work.

Calgary Guy

I see this same attitude on various gun-hunting forums from so many foreigners from ONE country, the USA. We DARE to enact and enforce our own laws and YOU think that you have the right to tell us whether they are "right"or not?

Then, when a Canadian objects to such overweening conceit and ill-mannered rhetoric, it is the same old rant about how you "protect" us and we "need" your fishing-hunting dollars or our economy will go to pieces. Not only are these false assumptions, but, they are offensive...except to a tiny minority of Quislings such as this pathetic Calgarian.

As to character, that's an odd comment since YOU initiated the un-pleasantry. Maybe you need to understand that Americans DO NOT rule or own the world and YOU have NO RIGHTS here. If, you cannot refrain from your rude remarks, fine, say whatever the moderators here will allow and I will ignore it, BUT, stay OUT of Canada, get it?

Anyway, I think that I have made this point strongly enough and will leave this now as it will do no good to pursue it further.

Dewey...
Its called being a good neighboor or host....

You should try it some time....


As for your need to dig deep in the dictonary
Here is the proper defination of your "word" of the day

In contemporary usage, "Quisling" is synonymous with "traitor", and particularly applied to politicians who appear to favour the interests of other nations or cultures over their own. In American English, the term is less well known than the equivalent phrase "Benedict Arnold". Also, in Norwegian, if you remove the "q" and the "i" in "quisling" - you get "(a) usling" which means "someone who is ignoble or iniquitous". This was used more or less humourusly during world war second in Norway.

I dont see how traitor and good host or decent human being ever cross paths.

You need to grow up and besides who ever gave a crap about what your grandad did.. What have you done? Well other than spout off like a deranged fool only concerned with his own self satisfaction.....

Calgary guy

My usage was both deliberate and correct, this is NOT about ME and my reference to my GF's activities was simply an attempt to lighten the discussion and introduce an element of shared experience with Americans.

I CARE what pioneer Canadians did, but then, one must BE a REAL Canadian to understand this.

As to ...grow up..., well, I think that defending my country against inchoate and baseless remarks by a foreigner is a sign of cultural and personal maturity....but, I am more concerned with Canada than you are.

YOU NEED to consider moving to the USA as your rhetoric is more suited to there than here, or, maybe you ARE an American living here....wouldn't surprise me.

Now, we can drop this now, or, we can continue to exchange negative comments, it's up to you and Bayou.

Dewey, it has been dropped twice but you keep going. Folks I'm sure it just as bad for you guys coming here but I have never expierenced it since only half of the dilema affects me. Like I said there are two sides of a fence. As I will point out, everyone I have met in Canada has always been nice and helpful, can't wait to go back in a couple of days. Take care everyone, both sides of the border.

Ya, some of us get a bit sensitive bayou because we are faced with much of the same garbage crossing your border as you are crossing ours but often the complaints seem to only come from south of the border.

Getting a gun into the U.S. is a major hassle.....getting guns, ammo and rifle scopes out is nearly impossible....I could go on. Your government seems to thrive on pointless paperwork and rules and regulations. Well our does to a point as well.

Political forum time, and we do depend on the States.

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
Ya, some of us get a bit sensitive bayou because we are faced with much of the same garbage crossing your border as you are crossing ours but often the complaints seem to only come from south of the border.

Getting a gun into the U.S. is a major hassle.....getting guns, ammo and rifle scopes out is nearly impossible....I could go on. Your government seems to thrive on pointless paperwork and rules and regulations. Well our does to a point as well.

ALL governments thrive on pointless regulations and paperwork.

I've been to Canada many times, both hunting and on business, and the first asshole I've ever encountered in at least thirty years from Canada is DEWEY.

You don't say!? Well, gee whiz!!!! This REALLY impresses me!!!! Wow!!! Holy smokes, a Yankee doesn't like me!!!! I am DESOLATED!!!

I would point out, DT, that WE supply the largest share of the OIL that the Yankees need to run their economy. They want "energy security" and cheap Canadian raw resources, yet, they DO NOT accept our sovereignity over OUR Northwest Passage.

In short, THEY need US more than we need them and, given the attitudes here, I am inclined to view Yankees as questionable friends, at best. Maybe we need to end any economic ties we have with them and concentrate on growing our trade and other ties elsewhere, as the "softwood" situation clearly demonstrated.

In any event, BC hunting/fishing will be closed to Americans within ten years, perhaps less and then, IMO, the ROC will follow. That will end the problem, for good.

Dewey,
We do also need them. Just to start off with not going into economics but just stuff here even that everyone here has in common. Where does 95 of our firearms, loaded ammo, reloading componets,powder.Not to mention the auto industry. Imperial oil is not "Canadian".

I honestly think alot of people feel threatened by Americans because of the pride in their contry and their right to question authority. And when they do it here I don't think they are being offensive they just want to know why?

I wish as Canadians we would have the same pride in our country. That what happens when you have alot of liberals up here. Canadians as a rule are very apathetic and just take alot of shit. Where the average American wont.

Dewey I have absolutly no doubt where your pride is, I just think you are being a little hard on Bayou. I agree with you on the Northwest passage completly, but in the same sentence we must be able to protect it.

We need to make alot of changes up here alot further away from even our existing goverment in my opinion but that will never happen because the vast majority of Canadians don't want change or are afraid to say so. By the way it is not a pain in the ass to get a gun out of the states. I just had one made up for me and once it was completed it took 14 days to do deliver. Just do your homework.

DT, no, I am not being too hard on anyone here; I objected to both the content and, especially the tone of Bayou's comments as I have seen exactly this condescending, ill-mannered and "manifest destiny-oriented" attitude from Americans, all too often on forums of this type.

The supply of gun-related items from the USA IS NOT a factor in my decisions concerning what is right for Canada. Much of the stuff is repackaged and made in Europe or Australia or Asia, anyway, as witness Alliant powders, manyn of Hodgedon's and so forth. Most of my guns are European as they are superior to American firearms, so, again, this is not important, to me.

Certainly, we all have the right to comment on various aspects of government, however, his remarks about OUR situation were offensive to me.

I do not agree with your feelings concerning Canadian apathy as my experience is that Canadians ARE very active in terms of politics, our rights and our environment. I could go on, but, I think that my point is made and it is very simply that NO foreigner is welcome here if/when they make remarks that are offensive to Canadians, period.

As to Americans hunting/fishing here, most people I discuss environmental issues with here in BC ARE totally against allowing this; it does NOT benefit us and the game/fish is OURS. I favour a ban on Americans hunting/fishing here and intend to keep working so that this will be enacted.

If I read correctly all he asked about is Beer.
Then you dumped on him