Good Lord, I just saw BBC footage where you could hear automatic weapons fire inside Parliament! One gunman killed. Pray to God they find any others.
What is happening to our world?

the soldier has died

Died guarding Canada's War Memorial. What a damned shame.

I heard one reporter say today that Canada has lost its innocence....There's a lot of truth to those words. Thoughts and prayers go out to the members of our military and their families.

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
I heard one reporter say today that Canada has lost its innocence....There's a lot of truth to those words. Thoughts and prayers go out to the members of our military and their families.

Canada lost her innocence in 1914.

The problem is that years of complacency have left most of our population incredulous that such evil could live here. Hopefully the unarmed solder shot today at the war memorial, and the other solders run down last week, did not die in vain and that at least a few of our citizens have the cobwebs removed from their eyes.

Rest in peace and thank you for your sacrifice Cpl. Nathan Cirillo and Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent

The solders on duty at the war memorial only carry "parade" rifles which are not loaded. I think that policy should change.

Corporal Nathan Cirillo, shot dead at ‪#‎Ottawa‬ War Memorial today, was 24. Reservist was member of Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders

Rest In Peace

This is the second attack in Canada. Don't forget about the two soldiers run down (one died) just a few days ago by another recent convert.

I hope that those "anti-gun" politicians and media in the Parliament Building appreciate the fact it was an armed Sergeant-at-Arms who ended the problem before any of them were hurt.

Our sincere condolences for our good neighbors to the north. And in particular to the family of that honorable soldier, selected by merit, to stand a post at that war memorial. May he rest in peace.

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
I heard one reporter say today that Canada has lost its innocence....There's a lot of truth to those words. Thoughts and prayers go out to the members of our military and their families.

Think we lost our Innocence a long time ago, just our politicians have never been willing to admit it. That's why today happened.

Grizz

Cpl Cirillo was armed.
He had a service rifle.
But Canadian gvt policy is that the soldiers carry no ammo on their person or in the weapon.
If thats not ironic what is?

Rest in peace soldier.
My hope is that your death is not in vain.

Tragic and sad.

Let's hope all the libtards out there that think this can't/won't happen in Canada have had their eyes opened.

The 90+ extremists in Canada need to be dealt with before another attack happens. I don't care about their 'rights,' they gave those up when they became involved with terrorists.

If these extremists were dealt with the way I would do it, there wouldn't be anyone thinking of joining these vermin...they'd be too scared of the consequences.

The government and Canada as a whole need to change the way a@@hats like this are viewed and grow a pair big enough to do what is not only the right thing for our country, but also the right thing to do to honor/repay those who have already been victims of these cowards.

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams:

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
I heard one reporter say today that Canada has lost its innocence....There's a lot of truth to those words. Thoughts and prayers go out to the members of our military and their families.

Think we lost our Innocence a long time ago, just our politicians have never been willing to admit it. That's why today happened.

Grizz

I think the jist of the comment is that this is really the first time we've seen foreign-inspired terrorist attacks on Canadian soil.

1868

Politician and journalist Thomas D’Arcy McGee, a Father of Confederation is assassinated outside his rooms on Sparks Street in Ottawa. The attacker is most likely a Fenian supporting Irish independence from Britain. Patrick James Whelan is hanged for the assassination.

1923-1960s

In 1923, B.C.-based Sons of Freedom, a radical splinter group of Doukhobors, initiate what is likely Canada’s first domestic terrorist campaign to protest government interference in their lives. Several hundred attacks, including firebombings, are carried out over 40 years.

1967

The Yugoslav consulate and embassy in Ottawa are bombed as part of a plot in which bombs go off as well in Toronto, Washington, San Francisco, Chicago and New York.

1970

The FLQ triggers the October Crisis with the kidnappings of British Trade Commissioner James Cross and Quebec Labour Minister Pierre Laporte, who is later killed. On Oct. 16, the federal cabinet invokes the War Measures Act, giving the police the power to arrest people without warrant.

1980s-90s

Extremists from the animal rights and environmental movements commit several acts deemed terrorist. These include the Animal Liberation Front vandalizing research labs, and eco-terrorists destroying logging equipment in B.C. and Alberta.

1982

Direct Action, a.k.a. the Squamish Five, a tiny British Columbia gang of self-styled anarchists, bombs the plant of Litton Industries, a large defence contractor, in Toronto.

1982

Turkish Embassy military attaché Col. Atilla Altikat is killed by a gunman firing 10 shots into his car as it is stopped at Island Park Drive and the Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway. Altikat dies at the wheel. The killer is never caught.

1985

An Armenian-Canadian terror cell attacks the Turkish Embassy in Ottawa, killing a security guard.

1998

Journalist Tara Singh Hayer is gunned down in Surrey, B.C., a decade after a failed assassination attempt left him paralysed and in a wheelchair. He had been vocal critic of violent Sikh separatist groups.

2004

An 18-year-old Quebec man firebombs a Montreal Jewish school, leaving a menacing political tract in the ashes. This leads a judge to brand his crime one of the rare acts of terrorism on Canadian soil.

2006

The so-called Toronto 18 terror group plots to blow up the Toronto Stock Exchange, the Toronto office of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, a military base near Toronto, storm the Parliament Buildings and behead the prime minister. Eleven people are convicted.

2013

Police arrest two men and charge them with plotting to attack a Via Rail passenger train travelling between New York and Toronto. Chiheb Esseghaier and Raed Jaser face many charges, including conspiracy to murder for the benefit of a terrorist group, participating in a terrorist group and conspiring to interfere with transportation facilities for the benefit of a terrorist group.

2014

An Ottawa jury convicts Misbahuddin Ahmed, a former diagnostic-imaging technician, of two terrorist-related offences: conspiracy to commit a terrorist offence and participating in the activities of a terrorist group. He is acquitted of the most serious of the charges against him, explosive device possession.

No doubt there have been loads of terrorist acts in Canada and I never indicated otherwise but this one was different...it was a high profile Canadian target inspired by a foreign terrorist group. These killing were meant to send a message to all Canadians from a terrorist group in another country. In my mind the words we lost our innocence ring true and I'm far from the only one that thinks that. Regardless, it was a tragedy that has changed Canada. Let's remember the fallen.

Don't forget 26 Canadians died on 9/11.

I was watching CNBC this morning when they interrupted coverage to show Kevin Vickers getting a standing ovation as he walked into Parliament today. What an emotional event for him.

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
No doubt there have been loads of terrorist acts in Canada and I never indicated otherwise but this one was different...it was a high profile Canadian target inspired by a foreign terrorist group. These killing were meant to send a message to all Canadians from a terrorist group in another country. In my mind the words we lost our innocence ring true and I'm far from the only one that thinks that. Regardless, it was a tragedy that has changed Canada. Let's remember the fallen.

Now, a day later, it sounds like it was just another single Wack job looking for a reason to strike out at society. The Toronto 16 would have been a legitimate terrorist attack if they had managed to pull it off, Praise be to Allah they didn't.

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Don't forget 26 Canadians died on 9/11.

I was watching CNBC this morning when they interrupted coverage to show Kevin Vickers getting a standing ovation as he walked into Parliament today. What an emotional event for him.

Deservedly too.

But l can't help but wonder why a fella like Kevin is packing a loaded weapon in Parliament and just outside a trained member of our armed services dies with a empty weapon in his hands?
Only in Canada l guess.

I certainly feel for his family and fellow soldiers of his unit.

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Originally posted by WestCoaster:

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Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
Don't forget 26 Canadians died on 9/11.

I was watching CNBC this morning when they interrupted coverage to show Kevin Vickers getting a standing ovation as he walked into Parliament today. What an emotional event for him.

Deservedly toGo.

But l can't help but wonder why a fella like Kevin is packing a loaded weapon in Parliament and just outside a trained member of our armed services dies with a empty weapon in his hands?
Only in Canada l guess.

I certainly feel for his family and fellow soldiers of his unit.

He actually wasn't packing...he had to go to his office to get it from a lock box.....only in Canada indeed.

What gets me is that the there were no armed guards at the doors of the Parliament. I've been through there a couple of times in the last few years, noted the lack of weapons at the door. I just assumed that the armed guards were just discretely out of sight.

Ammunition in the rifles at the War Memorial wouldn't have saved the soldier's life. It may have ended the attacker's sooner though.

Dean

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Ammunition in the rifles at the War Memorial wouldn't have saved the soldier's life. It may have ended the attacker's sooner though

We don't know that or what type of notice they had that they were going to be attack.

A trained armed person can react in 1.5 to 2 seconds. A person with no ammo can't shoot to defend himself.

The shooter came up from behind and shot the soldier in the back. Just the sort of thing you would expect from a coward.

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Originally posted by Cariboo:

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Originally posted by sheephunterab:
I heard one reporter say today that Canada has lost its innocence....There's a lot of truth to those words. Thoughts and prayers go out to the members of our military and their families.

Canada lost her innocence in 1914.

The problem is that years of complacency have left most of our population incredulous that such evil could live here. Hopefully the unarmed solder shot today at the war memorial, and the other solders run down last week, did not die in vain and that at least a few of our citizens have the cobwebs removed from their eyes.

Rest in peace and thank you for your sacrifice Cpl. Nathan Cirillo and Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent

+100% I just came across this sad post. BTTT Less we forget.
I believe this picture l took is a Canadian memorial 1914/18. jc


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Originally posted by John Chalmers:

I believe this picture l took is a Canadian memorial 1914/18. jc

Actually that is the Beaumont-Hamel Newfoundland Memorial in France. During WW 1 Newfoundland was not part of Canada. While a lot of Canadians poke fun at the "Newfs" those of us who know their history acknowledge and appreciate the huge price they paid in order to further freedom.

Newfoundland was the only British colony to become independent while remaining within the British Empire. From 1864 to 1949 they danced to their own drummer and only reluctantly became part of Canada.

Actually that is the Beaumont-Hamel Newfoundland Memorial in France. During WW 1 Newfoundland was not part of Canada. While a lot of Canadians poke fun at the "Newfs" those of us who know their history acknowledge and appreciate the huge price they paid in order to further freedom.

Newfoundland was the only British colony to become independent while remaining within the British Empire. From 1864 to 1949 they danced to their own drummer and only reluctantly became part of Canada.[/quote]

Thanks for the clarification Cariboo and my apologies.
As you will know, Newfoundland was the destination of many of my fellow countrymen and women. Cleared forcefully from our land to make way for the Cheviot Sheep.(The Highland Clearances)
I see Corporal Nathan Cirillo, murdered guarding the war memorial was attached to a Scottish Highland Regiment. No doubt a link to the distant past. jc

No apologies required John.

Canada is filled with people who trace their heritage back to the your part of the world. The Scots - especially those with the North West Company - were a major force in opening up the country we know today as Canada. Probably the most famous of Scots is Alexander MacKenzie who was best known for his overland crossing of what is now Canada to reach the Pacific Ocean in 1793. This was the first east to west crossing of North America north of Mexico and predated the Lewis and Clark expedition by 10 years.