While my rifle was at Champlins, JJ asked if I wanted the auto safety feature disconnected and I said yes. Now I am regretting that decision as I have several English shotguns that have them and find that I am going to have to retrain myself. It is automatic for me to thumb off the safety just before shooting, now I have to watch out and remind myself to engage it. It is probably no big thing to relearn, but I decided to pull the action out of the stock(refinishing) and I looked to see if I could reconnect the auto feature... no such luck as it appears that the connector rod had to be shortned back from the spindle lever so that it would not contact it. When you push the top lever, it cams over against the rod and pushes it back to the safe position, pretty simple idea and the first time I ever looked at one to see how it worked. I could and may TIG a section back on and file it to fit, but I figured I would do a little survey amongst this group and see what the preferences are and what most have. Thanks, Lee.

no autosafetys for me, thanks.

Generally the fewer "auto" items the better for me. Especially on a DG gun.

All the best,
Kyler

Change your shotguns to non-auto.

NO !!! do they have auto safties on dangerous game bolt actions ! on a bird gun its no big deal , but on a dangerous game gun in my opinion you must have a death wish to have one ! i had the one on my double diconnected as soon as i was able !

No Noway!!! Ever.


My own personal thoughts!


Best regards Chris

very big fat NO!!!!!!! change all your shotguns to non auto safeties and relearn to use them this way.

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Originally posted by lee440:
Thanks, Lee.

no autosafetys for me, thanks.

Gee, it's a shame you can't get any opinions out of this bunch. Hope those Hornady's work out for you. Bob

Automatic safeties Yes, or No?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I don't generally tell another hunter what to do, but since you asked....
NO WAY..
NO AUTO-"safeties"
I won't even have sling swivels on my DG rifle, let alone anything will will "automatically" disable it.
Cheers,
Don

Too bad we can't get a concensus opinion on this !!!

Geronimo

I'd like to differ but I can't on this topic! You must be responsible for your firearm's condition, not the automatic feature. Thanks I'll do it myself...

No, not no; FUCK NO!!!! On a rifle for dangerous game.

I suppose it's best for a heavy DR to have a non-auto safety, but it isn't a big deal. You just have to know your guns. My double rifles are both auto-safety and non, and ejector and non. Likewise my double shotguns. My double rifles are double trigger, and my double shotguns are single-selective. I've never had any trouble switching back and forth between any of them. With a non-auto safety, yeah, you do have to remember to put it back on.
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"Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."

Lee404,
congrates on your wonderful rifle. I am going to be a desenting voice. Hopefully a pretty loud one. I have had the misfortune of taking care of many people who have been accidentaly shot over these last 30 years or so. I also came very close to being shot when I was taking an inexperienced hunter out hunting. The fact is that the odds of you having to reload and shoot again in a charge situation are so low as to approach nonexistant. Even if that does happen your familary with your shot guns will carry you through to a quick 3rd and 4th shot. The fact is in the real world of sport hunting the auto safety is not a liability.

The most dangerous thing that PH's and trackers have to deal with are not changing herds of animals, but armed clients.When you are on your dream hunt in africa you will be walking for miles behind your PH and the trackers. You will be nervouse especialy when you are close to your buffalo. You will be loading and unloading your double. You will be getting in and out of the hunting truck and there will be times when other people will be handling your rifle.From a Rational stand point it makes no sense at all to disable a very functional safety feature on your rifle. That rifle was ordered and built during the golden age of african hunting. The people that made it and the person that ordered it knew what they were doing. Get the auto safty fixed!

Els

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Originally posted by lee440:
While my rifle was at Champlins, JJ asked if I wanted the auto safety feature disconnected and I said yes. Now I am regretting that decision as I have several English shotguns that have them and find that I am going to have to retrain myself. It is automatic for me to thumb off the safety just before shooting, now I have to watch out and remind myself to engage it. It is probably no big thing to relearn, but I decided to pull the action out of the stock(refinishing) and I looked to see if I could reconnect the auto feature... no such luck as it appears that the connector rod had to be shortned back from the spindle lever so that it would not contact it. When you push the top lever, it cams over against the rod and pushes it back to the safe position, pretty simple idea and the first time I ever looked at one to see how it worked. I could and may TIG a section back on and file it to fit, but I figured I would do a little survey amongst this group and see what the preferences are and what most have. Thanks, Lee.

I would never use the auto safety. I have probably discounted in excess of 25 of them over the years. Many of them I eneded up not hunting with either, but I still did it.

It may be second nature to push it off when mounting the rifle, but after reloading or in a rush it may not work. I just won't take a chance. But, then again to each his own, what ever risk they want to take is no issue to me.

just what baboon said

I don't hunt DR and haven't been to Africa.... yet. The biggest pain in the ass is an auto safety. I don't like
machines thinking for me, so to speak. Generally when I want a gun to be safe I open the action. I have had
safeties fail and I no longer rely on them and very seldom use them. I carry a double broken open when I am
hunting with others. They can clearly see that my gun is "safe". When I am expecting to shoot I will generally
close the action. That's just the way this old man hunts. I have seen two hunters killed and both times the
idiot shooter's first comment was "I thought it was on safe". You obviously have to make up your own mind.
If we were to hunt together and if your weapon is ever pointed in my direction it had better have the action
open or I WILL ASSUME THAT IT IS READY TO FIRE. I don't trust you or your safety in that situation.

I would never have one on a double rifle.
I would disconnect them on a shotgun too.

NE 450 No2 is as succinct as possible - no in all forms to auto safeties.

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Originally posted by butchloc:
just what baboon said

Yea.....me too.....screw the auto safeties.

Negatory on the auto safety!