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I don’t know much about doubles, but I dig this Manton. For some reason, especially the “vase” engraving on the sidekicks. Anyone know what style or influence the vase is from?? https://www.gunsamerica.com/92...ock-Double-Rifle.htm | ||
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A similar or maybe the same rifle was in one of the early DGJ. Might find more info there. | |||
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One of the early DGJ featured a .405 Manton. Over the past 30 years a few Mantons have surfaced with like engraving. I've only seen Mantons with this style but other India retailers (P. Orr, Lock, Rodda, Lyon&Lyon) may have done the same. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Who do you think built the rifle for Manton? | |||
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W&C Scott would be my first guess. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I think you will find the rifle is German. Here is a description and picture from the 1926 Manton catalog.  | |||
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Veeeery cool info...thanks... | |||
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How did you derive from the Manton catalog page that the rifle was made in Germany? | |||
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I had the Manton in 405 Winchester. The Urns are called "Kalasha" used in Hindu rituals. The barrel flat had German and British proof marks. Made in 1925 as in the advert. | |||
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Photos of my gun I posted on another site: http://forums.nitroexpress.com...=0&page=1#Post260336 | |||
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Thanks for that info. Fascinating. Makes the rifle even more appealing to me. | |||
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Diggory Hadoke's buddy had the same model, maybe the same rifle and it has German proofs. | |||
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Is that an original or repro Manton catalog? That’s also very cool. | |||
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Thanks, I have the same catalog. | |||
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I thought German at first, ur did not see any German proof marks. | |||
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The Greener crossbolt third fasteners in the catalog drawings of "low figure" DRs are not doll's heads like OP .470 NE and that spritely .405. Good to know First Stop in Rapid City, SD is still a going concern. Been there a few times but could not afford to buy all the nice things I wanted.  Rip... | |||
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Agreed. From all appearences, action likely made in Suhl as was the action of my Simson & Co Suhl .405. Here is a picture of the Simson factory in Suhl.  Picture of my Simson .405 double:  The .405 was appreciated back then and many Suhl actions were bought in the white and used by European gun makers. NRA Life Benefactor Member, DRSS, DWWC, Whittington Center,Android Reloading Ballistics App at http://www.xplat.net/ | |||
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Is it safe to say most of the English doubles with cross bolts were German in origin? | |||
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I would suggest more actions were Belgian origin. | |||
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