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Wow - a neat Manton!
21 February 2020, 03:41
BaxterBWow - a neat Manton!
I don’t know much about doubles, but I dig this Manton. For some reason, especially the “vase” engraving on the sidekicks. Anyone know what style or influence the vase is from??
https://www.gunsamerica.com/92...ock-Double-Rifle.htm21 February 2020, 04:04
kda55A similar or maybe the same rifle was in one of the early DGJ. Might find more info there.
21 February 2020, 06:14
cal pappasOne of the early DGJ featured a .405 Manton. Over the past 30 years a few Mantons have surfaced with like engraving. I've only seen Mantons with this style but other India retailers (P. Orr, Lock, Rodda, Lyon&Lyon) may have done the same.
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21 February 2020, 19:12
LHeym500Who do you think built the rifle for Manton?
21 February 2020, 19:20
cal pappasquote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Who do you think built the rifle for Manton?
W&C Scott would be my first guess.
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www.CalPappas.comwww.CalPappas.blogspot.com1994 Zimbabwe
1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
1999 Zimbabwe
1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation
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2002 South Africa
2003 South Africa
2003 Zimbabwe
2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
2008 Zimbabwe
2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
2013 Zimbabwe
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2017 Zimbabwe
2018 South Africa
2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
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21 February 2020, 20:20
470EvansI think you will find the rifle is German.
Here is a description and picture from the 1926 Manton catalog.
21 February 2020, 20:27
BaxterBVeeeery cool info...thanks...
21 February 2020, 22:18
RedstoneHow did you derive from the Manton catalog page that the rifle was made in Germany?
21 February 2020, 23:00
OahuKaneoheI had the Manton in 405 Winchester. The Urns are
called "Kalasha" used in Hindu rituals.
The barrel flat had German and British proof marks. Made in 1925 as in the advert.
21 February 2020, 23:03
OahuKaneohePhotos of my gun I posted on another site:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com...=0&page=1#Post26033621 February 2020, 23:34
BaxterBquote:
Originally posted by OahuKaneohe:
I had the Manton in 405 Winchester. The Urns are
called "Kalasha" used in Hindu rituals.
The barrel flat had German and British proof marks. Made in 1925 as in the advert.
Thanks for that info. Fascinating. Makes the rifle even more appealing to me.
21 February 2020, 23:52
470EvansDiggory Hadoke's buddy had the same model, maybe the same rifle and it has German proofs.
21 February 2020, 23:59
470EvansOahuKaneohe,
Here's the description of your 405.
Nice rifle!
22 February 2020, 01:55
BaxterBIs that an original or repro Manton catalog? That’s also very cool.
22 February 2020, 02:52
OahuKaneoheThanks, I have the same catalog.
22 February 2020, 15:46
LHeym500quote:
Originally posted by 470Evans:
I think you will find the rifle is German.
Here is a description and picture from the 1926 Manton catalog.
I thought German at first, ur did not see any German proof marks.
The Greener crossbolt third fasteners in the catalog drawings of "low figure" DRs are not doll's heads like OP .470 NE and that spritely .405.
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07 March 2020, 18:11
crsheltonquote:
I think you will find the rifle is German.
Agreed. From all appearences, action likely made in Suhl as was the action of my Simson & Co Suhl .405. Here is a picture of the Simson factory in Suhl.
Picture of my Simson .405 double:
The .405 was appreciated back then and many Suhl actions were bought in the white and used by European gun makers.
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Colin MastersIs it safe to say most of the English doubles with cross bolts were German in origin?
09 March 2020, 04:53
RedstoneI would suggest more actions were Belgian origin.