Hey Guys - I cold use some expiereinced DR shooters help. I have been shoting for a long time, with a lot of guns of all types and plenty of big bores. I am not recoil sensative and would generally be considered a good shooter.

AS some of you know, a bought a Heym PH in 470 N.E. It was very lightly used and came with a worked up load (107 gr of 4831). It can shoot ~1" doubles. Note that I said "can" rather than "does."

Something is wrong with my stance or how I am holding/shooting this rifle. It is not the gun or load, it is me.

Any advice on changes in form or how you handle your doubles to get consistent results from 50 yards in would be greatly apreciated. I am talking about field conditions and not sitting with an elbow on a bench or other range type conditions. I want to put those 2 bulles within 1.5" of each other in the right spot in the field. Right now I am at 3-6" and need to tighten up.

Any thoughts?

Sir,

I believe OFF THE BENCH @ 50 yards 6 rounds within a base ball is

perfectly fine, and at 100 yards 6 rounds within 6" is fine OFF THE

BENCH. So shooting standing up at 50 yards with NO support 3" - 6"

six shot groups should be acceptable and kill what you are shooting
at for animals intended for that large caliber.

When my offhand shooting suffers, I will start walking 45 minutes each day for 7-10 days. Also I will start back with my push-ups. Another exercize I do is with an UNLOADED rifle, I will aim at the bottom of a door frame and follow it up, across, and down the other side and back untill I'm tired. Lay off the nicotine and caffiene. Follow the above and I will bet your offhand shooting will improve. It seems you are already doing decent so I don't know what to say on technique.

Joe A.

How is the besst way to shoot off a bench? Should I support my elbow on a pad? Or the back of my left hand supported by a pad?

I have similar concerns as OP and would appreciate feedback
Thank you!

See the pics on this thread for bench example:

http://forums.accuratereloadin...804/m/5091036631/p/1

Cleathorn - send me an email at

info@heymusa.com

and I can forward you a pdf with some illustrations for shooting.

Hi New Guy,
May I send you another email to get your pdf?
Thanks
Martin

Just some aspects to consider.

1. What is the Trigger pull weight of the gun and is it not too high for you that makes you move a bit as you are pulling it.

2. Is it free of creep.

3. Make sure you always have the same sight picture - ie that the Foresight is in the same location on the rear sight while aiming and pulling the trigger.

4. Get your breating / sight picture right and the same every time and practice with an empty gun.

ie Gun up, sight picture as it should be, either up through the animal (I often follow the front leg up), go past where you want to hit, breath out and bring the sight picture down, hold your breath, hold sight picture and shoot.

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Originally posted by Martin Godio:
Hi New Guy,
May I send you another email to get your pdf?
Thanks
Martin

You bet!

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Originally posted by 500N:
Just some aspects to consider.

1. What is the Trigger pull weight of the gun and is it not too high for you that makes you move a bit as you are pulling it.

2. Is it free of creep.

3. Make sure you always have the same sight picture - ie that the Foresight is in the same location on the rear sight while aiming and pulling the trigger.

4. Get your breating / sight picture right and the same every time and practice with an empty gun.

ie Gun up, sight picture as it should be, either up through the animal (I often follow the front leg up), go past where you want to hit, breath out and bring the sight picture down, hold your breath, hold sight picture and shoot.

I would add to that, make sure the stock fits you well enough so that your eye is consistently down the sight-line.

Shoulder the rifle instinctively, eyes closed, with firm hand grip, pad hard into shoulder and cheek tight on stock. If your eye is not looking down the sights correctly I would have it worked. Depending on the wood, stocks can bent for drop and cast more than you might think.

Good luck.