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I was wondering if most people purchase one when buying a DR and if so were they satisfied with their decision to do so? Also,what suggestions do they have regarding the quality of the cases?
 
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I was wondering if most people purchase one when buying a DR and if so were they satisfied with their decision to do so? Also,what suggestions do they have regarding the quality of the cases?


George the value of an oak & leather fitted case for a double rifle simply makes the rifle worth about $1500 more than the rifle alone when you get ready to sell it!
They are not made to use as an air travel case, but are display cases.

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I think a case costs around 3000 although I could be mistaken.I am not sure about spending this much on a case for a 9000 dollar rifle(even if it is better than a 100000 dollar rifle,IMO).I wooden case would be nice however.
 
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I think a case costs around 3000 although I could be mistaken.I am not sure about spending this much on a case for a 9000 dollar rifle(even if it is better than a 100000 dollar rifle,IMO).I wooden case would be nice however.

Check out Galazan!


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Our trunk cases are not only great ways to carry your gun but they are also excellent ways to display them. Put your favorite gun in one of our gun cases with all of the proper gun accessories, they enhance the gun to a new level. When you open the lid and display the gun everybody immediately knows it is truly something special.


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That looks like a nice case but I would like one made for my particular rifle with the input of the rifle builder.I know I would really want a case if the rifle will shoot-especially for an accurate DR.
 
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I think Mac is dead on about his suggestion these cases being for display and not for air travel.

I think that you should decide what your intended use of the case is. If it going to be used to show case your double then a wooden case will work just fine.

However if you want to travel with it and get the most protection a Pelican case is the way to go.

In addition to Galazan there is also Jeff's Outfitters at www.jeffsoutfitters.com. The have leather and canvas cases.
 
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Because there is the off chance that he may
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Not new here, well aware of his reputation.
Chalk it up to feeling nice today.
Might still get bitten in the ass anyway.
 
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I was wondering if most people purchase one when buying a DR and if so were they satisfied with their decision to do so? Also,what suggestions do they have regarding the quality of the cases?



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To my mind, a case of the oak and leather variety is a waste of money on any rifle at the lower end of the five digit realm in terms of price. Use a Pelican Case for travel and this for day to day...

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By the oak and leather for show by an Americase for go.
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I would like to predict right here and right now that Shootaway's new double will have accuracy problems. I wold also like to predict that it will have soft bores and will wear out rapidly with any cleaning or repeat shooting.

Just a guess.



 
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I would like to predict right here and right now that Shootaway's new double will have accuracy problems. I wold also like to predict that it will have soft bores and will wear out rapidly with any cleaning or repeat shooting.

Just a guess.


I predicted that some time ago also! Butch Searcy is going to have his good name dragged thru the mud if the rumor of the order is correct.


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I would like to predict right here and right now that Shootaway's new double will have accuracy problems. I wold also like to predict that it will have soft bores and will wear out rapidly with any cleaning or repeat shooting.

Just a guess.


Nah, I'll bet it will throw consistent Modified patterns at 30 yards...


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So, it sounds like the wood cases are not good for air travel, I'm not surprised. But what are your thougths on using it as a case that goes in your car for a trip to the range or out for a day of hunting. I really want one for such use and was thinking about making one myself but as my woodworking skills are limited to bird houses that even birds won't live in, it is probably just an interesting waste of my time to make one.
 
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For what it costs for a cheap metal (Aluminium) case with some foam in it, you might as well buy one for travel to the range.

I have a few metal and plastic cases for that purpose.


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I dont want to even think about using a wooden case for anything other than displaying a good rifle if not to anyone but myself.Any rifle that shoots accurate and looks very nice should have a special case built for it.
 
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I don't know about all the previous responses to this person but the question certainly seems appropriate to me. I have used wood,leather,and canvas cases for years for my shotguns when transmitting to shoot. There used to be a place in Texas that made a really nice case for a double gun that was both reasonably inexpensive and perfectly adequate for the purpose of carrying in the trunk to the shooting site. I had no reluctance to use them for my Berreta ASE and Browning Grade V when I was shooting.


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So, it sounds like the wood cases are not good for air travel, I'm not surprised. But what are your thougths on using it as a case that goes in your car for a trip to the range or out for a day of hunting. I really want one for such use and was thinking about making one myself but as my woodworking skills are limited to bird houses that even birds won't live in, it is probably just an interesting waste of my time to make one.


Fo Fiddy NE, I have fitted cases for six of my seven double rifles. They are all but one leather cases from Galazan,Cape Outfitters,and factory cases, one Oak & leather case for a Westley Richards, and the leather factory for the rest Merkel, and Winchester. I have a Take down short Tuff-pak that I use for two double rifles in break down soft cases plus other gear and several hard sided rifle cases both for take-down, and full length cases for air travel.

The cases are not a waste of money, they simply add value to your double rifle. The only double I have with no fitted case is a .58 Cal percussion muzzle loader! Only because it is too long.

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I opted for an Americase. Beauty and the Beast!

Americase fitted Side by Side Rifle


There is no way that I would trust Oak and Leather to protect my double rifle while traveling. Why buy two separate cases?
The Americase is beautiful and WILL protect your investment!

Just my opine!


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I opted for an Americase. Beauty and the Beast


There is no way that I would trust Oak and Leather to protect my double rifle while traveling. Why buy two separate cases?
The Americase is beautiful and WILL protect your investment
Just my opine!


I had forgotten about Rusty's Ameracase fitted case. It is a buy, and makes sense but is not a classic. I have a compartment fitted case that someone shipped a double in, and the walls of some of the compartments inside collapsed. for air travel I prefer my rifles incased in foam. With the fitted Ameracase I would cut some pieces of foam to take up any air space spaces so nothing could collapse and let the rifle parts get in contact with each other. This would increase the safety for the contents, and still have a classic fitted display case. Very good idea. I only live about 40 miles from their factory, and I may go down and talk to them about one of these, and a two double case like the one they made for Todd Williams.


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This is mine from Americase. I do use it for air travel but I stuff underwear (clean thank you), socks, and T shirts (no not used Boddington models) in all of the voids just to add a bit of additional padding. Most folks at the airport don't even think of it being a gun case and it always comes out with the regular luggage. Courtney shoe added for scale.

 
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Awesome case, Todd! Thanks for sharing!

What I need for Americase to make is a case for my Mauser M03 stock and two barrels on one side and my 450/400 3 inch double on the other! It will take 4 men and a small boy to carry it! Big Grin animal

Looks like I have another day trip to Waxahachie, Texas for me!


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Rusty, Don't know if you remember it but I had this case at the range the day you, I, and Jines shot!

BTW, I hear from a reliable source that Bwana Jines scored ... "Properly", a few days ago in the CMS camps!
 
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An oak and leather case needs to travel to get that nice lived in look that comes over time....

Scuffs and patina are all part of the memories.

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Great news about Bwana Jines! Sorry I missed seeing your case. Which model is yours case?


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Not sure about the model actually Rusty. It was a full up custom job but I'm sure they started with a standard case of some type. Dimensions are 6" thick, 28" long, and I think 11" wide. Whatever that equates to.

That was a fun day at the range though, eh? Your rifle and all of those vintage shooters of Bwana Jines' gave me the bug for one myself! I've actually found a pre WWII, leather and oak cased, H&H Royal Sidelock, scoped with period quick detach system and scope, in 375FL. Just haven't "pulled the trigger" so to speak! Cool

Yeah, from what I understand, Bwana Jines has a new nickname. "Lion King" or something like that! sofa
 
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It was as fun day. I look forward shooting with you and "L K" Jines again!


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Todds case is like one thing trying to do everything but not doing one thing best.It is not an attractive display case,and may not be the safest way of transporting rifle by airline travel.It looks like it weighs a ton too.Todd missed again!
 
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Todds case is like one thing trying to do everything but not doing one thing best.It is not an attractive display case,and may not be the safest way of transporting rifle by airline travel.It looks like it weighs a ton too.Todd missed again!


Sorry this happened to Todd. He is such a fine gentleman, too. Welcome to the garbage collector's club.
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Todds case is like one thing trying to do everything but not doing one thing best.It is not an attractive display case,and may not be the safest way of transporting rifle by airline travel.It looks like it weighs a ton too.Todd missed again!


Sorry this happened to Todd. He is such a fine gentleman, too. Welcome to the garbage collector's club.
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And somebody asked why we even respond to this asshole. I knew better. I knew better! I KNEW BETTER.

Hey George. FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!

Actually, the case, empty, weighs 17 pounds. I think most of the TuffPaks weigh between 19 and 21 pounds. We went through this discussion last year when I first received it. It has a relatively thick aluminum shell, comparable to the aluminum cases on the market. The outsides have a minimum of 1.5" padding, and each item fits snuggly into it's compartment, with the exception of the frame / buttstock compartment. There, they have a padded strap system whereby you compress the frame into the padding, then strap it into place. It's very snug and not likely to move. The divider between the top and bottom is padded and you'll notice some depressions in the velvet lining which are due to the compression caused by closing the case. Once it's all strapped down and closed up, there really isn't anywhere the items can move. In addition, it has three locks with a canvas covering that locks down in three different directions. It's very secure and I'd highly recommend it for air travel. It hasn't let me down yet!

Total weight when loaded up? 500NE 10.25 lbs, 9.3x74 with scope 7.25 pounds, case 17 pounds. Total weight loaded and ready to travel ... 34.5 pounds. 15.5 pounds under the max weight allowed by the airline before being labeled as "Heavy".

Hey Cal, thanks for letting me into the garbage collector's club! Amazing what you can find in here, eh? Good company to boot!
 
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I would like to predict right here and right now that Shootaway's new double will have accuracy problems. I wold also like to predict that it will have soft bores and will wear out rapidly with any cleaning or repeat shooting.

Just a guess.


I predicted that some time ago also! Butch Searcy is going to have his good name dragged thru the mud if the rumor of the order is correct.


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