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Originally posted by BEGNO:
It doesn't mean anything that JJ will not work on them. Chevy guys don't like working on Fords, etc. Now, if he said they were a POS and he wouldn't work on them, then that means something. There were many here on AR who liked their Sabattis before they discovered the flaw.
BTW, I wouldn't expect any help from EAA, send them back to Italy. Guys, I don't own one, I'm just seeing the positives, and hoping they fix em.

BS, IMHO, the fact someone held in such regard as JJ said that says a lot to me.

And I reckon the person posting probably didn't put the full story.


"There were many here on AR who liked their Sabattis before they discovered the flaw."
And There were many here on AR who DISliked the Sabattis BEFORE the flaw was discovered
on the basis that something wasn't right and the flaw was just the final proof that
corners had been cut.

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J.J. specifically told me via email that he:
1) would not try to re-regulate the barrels on Sabattis;
2) would be happy to do other work such as trigger, stock and recoil pad work at his usual rate.

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:
J.J. specifically told me via email that he:
1) would not try to re-regulate the barrels on Sabattis;
2) would be happy to do other work such as trigger, stock and recoil pad work at his usual rate.

Which is fine, as trigger, stock and recoil pad work is easy for a gunsmith. (Retocks on DR for a specialist stocker).

JJ's expertise is re regulation of DR's, the fact he won't do it says a lot IMHO.

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Nigel let them think what they want its not worth it 5k doubles are H&H fine the headache is to much what next were gonna be hearing about Bespoke Sabs with options that anyone who wants them can have.

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Originally posted by 500N:

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:
J.J. specifically told me via email that he:
1) would not try to re-regulate the barrels on Sabattis;
2) would be happy to do other work such as trigger, stock and recoil pad work at his usual rate.

Which is fine, as trigger, stock and recoil pad work is easy for a gunsmith. (Retocks on DR for a specialist stocker).

JJ's expertise is re regulation of DR's, the fact he won't do it says a lot IMHO.

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No argument from me, just stating the facts as the man himself stated them.

JJ Perodeau has been mis-quoted on AR more than once regarding the Sabattis, always by people who have not in fact spoken with him, nor received his permission to quote him. I have spoken with him on numerous occasions regarding the Sabattis and mine was the first he examined and worked on. I did receive his permission to post his comments.

For the record, I no longer own a Sabatti as I returned it for a refund. I am watching carefully to see what EAA does about the returned DRs. So far it doesn't look like they are correcting the problems. See my post "Sabatti Repairs - No Good!" in the Double Rifles forum.

So with no dog in this fight why throw a tizzy fit like a toddler ? It was predicted by a select few that these problems would arise and we had been told we thumbed our nose at cheap guns..

I have restrained from personally attacking you. I would appreciate it if you'd grant me the same courtesy. I don't comment on your posts nor call you names, so how about you adopt a similar policy. I don't like you and it's clear you don't like me. I bet neither of us looses any sleep over that fact. I never recall any of the "select few" predicting the cut rifling on the Sabattis, or did I miss that one? BTW, nothing prevents you from putting me on your ignore list, except your incredible ego. You are now back on mine.

Lionhunter

He didn't say SPECIFICALLY "any of the "select few" predicting the cut rifling on the Sabattis,"

He said "it was predicted by a select few that these problems would arise and we had been told we thumbed our nose at cheap guns."

Problems does NOT equate to "cut rifling".

To be honest, I don't think any of us doubters thought for a minute that they had used the cut rifling / cut crown method of regulation and it was a shock to me.


On another subject, the people who jumped all over us "select few" for questioning Sabatti seem to have gone very quiet, if not dissappeared totally in some cases - especially the one who was the loudest !!! LOL

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I don't like you and it's clear you don't like me

You dont like me but I like you so

much Does this mean your not coming to

my birthday party ? Its an INTERNET forum

opinions vary why take it so serious ?

Its not good for hunting that people had to

drop 5,000 to see these guns had not been built

to strict standards. Nor was it in their best

intrest to list larger models take orders

and never deliver but to eaches own..I will still await your rsvp..

You two should send flowers to each other and then get a room !!! LOL

I think we just need a good old fashion Obammy beer summit talk about our feelings and let it go.....lol

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Originally posted by 500N:
Lionhunter

He didn't say SPECIFICALLY "any of the "select few" predicting the cut rifling on the Sabattis,"

He said "it was predicted by a select few that these problems would arise and we had been told we thumbed our nose at cheap guns."

Problems does NOT equate to "cut rifling".

To be honest, I don't think any of us doubters thought for a minute that they had used the cut rifling / cut crown method of regulation and it was a shock to me.


On another subject, the people who jumped all over us "select few" for questioning Sabatti seem to have gone very quiet, if not dissappeared totally in some cases - especially the one who was the loudest !!! LOL

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Gun Snobs to be precise

Gentlemen, gentlemen....

As I don't have any other double I will be using mine a LOT. So wait a couple of years and we will exactly know if these rifles are done to last. I am not very careful with guns, I use them to hunt and not to admire them so I will be your lab rat

Meanwhile as 500N said, exchange flowers and don't be radicals, the trith is always in the middle...I think these rifles are ok for have some fun for people wannabees like me that enjoy playing with a "double".

They will NEVER be a really good double rifle for more experienced or wealthy buyers.

We are talking about 3k (in your country...in mine 8k) double rifles !!!!! Technology can't do miracles, they will ALWAYS be a "production" rifle, just looking at the philipps screws used inside de front stock (sp?) is enough.

Somewhere I read: "Sabatti's are the european Remingtons"......that's ok for me....I LOVE Remingtons

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