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Have a good working load for my Gibbs 450 3 1/4 any reason why I should consider the Hornadys. | ||
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Possibly less expensive. Hornady is a great American company that, I believe, deserves our support all other things being equal. Hornady has also provided us with components as well as loaded ammo at very reasonable rates for the African calibers. I have had good success with both as far as accuracy is concerned. Won't know on game till 9/12. Just my two cents worth. Dutch | |||
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And Woodleigh provided components at reasonable rates for year when no one else did and before other companies started jumping on the band wagon. . | |||
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I don't like using steel jacketed bullets in my vintage guns both the Hornadys softs and solids are steel jacketed. I try and use the Woodleigh solids which are steel jacketed sparingly due to that as well. | |||
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470 You aren't the only one. At least with the Woodleigh's (I have yet to see the exact dimensions of the Hornady's) the Steel jacketed solids are well tapered from just in front of the base so AFAIC, the less contact the better all things being equal. . | |||
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Zephyr: I shoot both for the past dozen years in my .450 no2 Lang. The Woodleighs I use for hunting and the Hornadys for plinking and practice (as well as 350-grain Horndays). They are both fine and well constructed bullet--with the Woodleighs a bit more on the traditional look side. However, I buy old Hornadys at gun shows at 15-20$ per box when some wing nut found out his .458 or .460 was more than he could handle. I have a life time supply of the Hs and use the Ws sparingly. Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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the hornady cups are tapered, heavier at the closed end, on both DGX and DGS - same cup, inverted opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Thanks for the input I guess I'll stick with the Woodleighs.....I've been using Hawks in 480 and 350 gr for practice the price is right and I believe the are kind and gentle to older barrels | |||
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Zephyr, I was hasty in my initial reply. I do use the Hornady 350gr bullets in my vintage guns as they are a traditional cup and lead core bullet. It's the DGX and DGS bullets I avoid as they are steel jacketed. I use the same powder and charge for the Hornady 350s that regulate with the Woodleigh 480s. Let me know if you ever are interested in selling the Gibbs. Good luck | |||
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Thanks for the interest... let me take it on Safari first....I also use the same load under the Hawk 350s as I do my 480 Woodleighs. | |||
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Regarding using the Hornady DGS and DGX in vintage rifles, I just spoke with the folks at Hornady and they informed me that the copper clad on the exterior of the steel jacket was .015" thick. Most of the vintage rifles have grooves of .004 ( .450 bore shooting .458 diameter bullets ), so unless you particular rifle has rifling that is over three times as deep as normal, those bullets should be just fine in vintage rifles. I know I shoot them in mine with no second thoughts. | |||
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I'd like to see a fired one to see the engraving of the rifling. | |||
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Here are some shot from a Browning 458 Safari Grade. The rifeling did not get through the outer coating to the steel. 465H&H | |||
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