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I was reading Shooting the British DR by G. Wright. In it he mentione a Nitro for Black load using 350 gr jacketed bullet with H 4895 powder and some filler. I use this powder often in several of my rifles with great results. Does anyone know if it can be used for a full load? Does anyone use it for the 450NE?? | ||
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I've had great sucess with NE450 #2's(Tony) 75% rule using full loads of powder and 75% weight bullet. For the 450NE it's a 350 grn bullet. (Your milage may vary) NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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I've been using IMR-4831 for full loads and XMP-5744 for reduced loads, so I can't comment on H4895. Use a double rifle. It just feels better. Double Rifle Shooters Society | |||
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For Nitro for Black loads I use IMR 4198. Around 50 grains would be a good start in a 450 3 1/4". You must use filler @10 to 12 gr of dacron. It must be compressed. If you want to use H4895, @60 grains should be about right. Again you must use filler, and it must be compressed. Velocities should be in the 1800 to 1900fps range. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Tony, since I bought a 450 NE two days ago and have never loaded for a 450 or used dacron.... Is the dacron weighed on a scale so as to be the same with each load? I hunt, not to kill, but in order not to have played golf.... DRSS | |||
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Clayman 216: I have used IMR 4198 for 20+ years in the light nitro loads and nitro for black. For full nitro loads I use IMR 4831. I always thought faster powders may produce unsafe pressures in full nitro loads but don't have the facts--just a feeling. Also, since the above two have worked so well for me since the 1980s I did not see the reason to change. If you need formulas for conversion, just let me know. Cheers, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Cal Thanks for your offer. I may be contacting you. I have used 4831 as well as R 19 and have loads that shoot full charges well. I just wondered about H 4895 because I use this powder most in other rifles and calibers and find it to produce the most accuacy from all my powders when carefully loaded. I just wondered if using it for a full load was safe as I am not an expert on the properties of powders and resulting pressures. I felt that it it gave me same rusults aor better, it would be less powders needed. | |||
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Cal Forgot to say that I used 60 gr. H 4895 and foam filler ( compressed ) in a nitroi for black load using a 350 gr. Hornady FP. At 50 yards rested it shot an eight shot group ( four from each bbl ) that could be covered by a 3 1/4 inch circle. I did not even try to tweak it yet. | |||
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