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I have a .450 NE double on the way and I am currently shopping around for reloading components. Hornady dies for the calibre seems to be the most reasonably priced but I know two guys who have experienced problems with them. Main gripes seems to be a lack of neck tension afterwards, suggesting that the dies are either oversized or the expander ball is not the right size. I am curious to know if anyone bought the same dies recently and have experienced the same problems or not. | ||
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Yes, and no problems; if you don't like the expander plug it is easy to make smaller. | |||
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Yes and problems. Not really the best dies for the money. | |||
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Interesting; I have at least ten sets of Hornady dies....no issues. What is your specific problem? | |||
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Not strictly related to the .450 NE, but I've found that less common cartridges are more prone to quirks regardless of die maker. The brass tends to be less uniform in neck thickness and other dimensions due to lower volume runs spread apart in time. Just my theory and experience. I have Hornady dies for both 45-70 and .458 Lott. Both work as expected. Good dies. I remove the expander plug entirely on the Lott dies and use a light mouth bell die just to help bullet seating. You get more uniform neck tension and less working of the neck if you do this. I do the same with other cartridges. Jeremy | |||
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Mine has all the problems mentioned. Mine leaves little to no neck tension-requiring a good crimp to keep the bullet on. I guess I could have sent it in but it still works decent enough for my single shot. If I was going to take ammo on a expensive hunt I would probably just pony up and get the RCBS "though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression." ---Thomas Jefferson | |||
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They are my LEAST favorite dies, but at least they are inexpensive. No big problems with them overall, they are just "sloppy" and poorly made. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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I agree with Jorge on this one. Very much my least favorite dies. | |||
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As with everything in life, one gets what one pays for. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I prefer RCBS and rarely have had issues. They used to run a custom shop that would make dies for my doubles from fired cases when the chambers were a bit out of spec which was often on vintage doubles. I believe a fellow named Stan ran it, last I heard they closed it down. | |||
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The RCBS custom shop is indeed closed. Th only other choice for new dies is CH Tool but they are on a 2-2.5 year back order! Best shot is to advertise for used dies. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Thanks for all the input. I've found a decent set of second-hand RCBS dies so no reason to bother with any potentially dodgy products. | |||
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