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Hornady .450 NE dies question
20 June 2019, 11:18
jvw375Hornady .450 NE dies question
I have a .450 NE double on the way and I am currently shopping around for reloading components. Hornady dies for the calibre seems to be the most reasonably priced but I know two guys who have experienced problems with them.
Main gripes seems to be a lack of neck tension afterwards, suggesting that the dies are either oversized or the expander ball is not the right size.
I am curious to know if anyone bought the same dies recently and have experienced the same problems or not.
Yes, and no problems; if you don't like the expander plug it is easy to make smaller.
21 June 2019, 00:16
Dutch44Yes and problems. Not really the best dies for the money.
Interesting; I have at least ten sets of Hornady dies....no issues. What is your specific problem?
21 June 2019, 03:35
farbedoNot strictly related to the .450 NE, but I've found that less common cartridges are more prone to quirks regardless of die maker. The brass tends to be less uniform in neck thickness and other dimensions due to lower volume runs spread apart in time. Just my theory and experience.
I have Hornady dies for both 45-70 and .458 Lott. Both work as expected. Good dies.
I remove the expander plug entirely on the Lott dies and use a light mouth bell die just to help bullet seating. You get more uniform neck tension and less working of the neck if you do this. I do the same with other cartridges.
Jeremy
21 June 2019, 09:21
thecanadianMine has all the problems mentioned. Mine leaves little to no neck tension-requiring a good crimp to keep the bullet on. I guess I could have sent it in but it still works decent enough for my single shot. If I was going to take ammo on a expensive hunt I would probably just pony up and get the RCBS
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They are my LEAST favorite dies, but at least they are inexpensive. No big problems with them overall, they are just "sloppy" and poorly made.
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21 June 2019, 17:52
Todd Williamsquote:
Originally posted by jorge:
They are my LEAST favorite dies, but at least they are inexpensive. No big problems with them overall, they are just "sloppy" and poorly made.
I agree with Jorge on this one. Very much my least favorite dies.
21 June 2019, 18:58
cal pappasAs with everything in life, one gets what one pays for.
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22 June 2019, 01:39
470EvansI prefer RCBS and rarely have had issues.
They used to run a custom shop that would make dies for my doubles from fired cases when the chambers were a bit out of spec which was often on vintage doubles.
I believe a fellow named Stan ran it, last I heard they closed it down.
22 June 2019, 07:58
cal pappasThe RCBS custom shop is indeed closed.
Th only other choice for new dies is CH Tool but they are on a 2-2.5 year back order!
Best shot is to advertise for used dies.
Cal
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1997 Zimbabwe
1998 Zimbabwe
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2002 South Africa
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2005 South Africa
2005 Zimbabwe
2006 Tanzania
2006 Zimbabwe--vacation
2007 Zimbabwe--vacation
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2012 Australia
2013 South Africa
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2018 Zimbabwe--vacation
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22 June 2019, 15:52
jvw375Thanks for all the input. I've found a decent set of second-hand RCBS dies so no reason to bother with any potentially dodgy products.