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Are Cutting Edge Solids and Northfork solids safe (i.e., won't damage the barrel) to shoot in a pre-War British made double rifle? Or should I stick with Woodleigh solids? Thanks | ||
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I have shot both in my 450-400 Boswell. No issues. To me they would be easier on the barrel than a copper and steel jacketed lead bullet. | |||
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I would not hesitate to use North Fork's in any gun,just make sure the size is right for the gun. DRSS | |||
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I agree with Bill, just slug the barrels of the rifle to make sure it is a standard bore & land before shooting them it the rifle. If it has a standard bore both are safe in the rifle! .....................................................................  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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This was my thought too.....just wanted to confirm it. Thanks | |||
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Go to Michael458s B&M site or the Double Rifle Bullet of the Future thread and read about barrel strain tests he and I did. Make you own conclusions on which would be safer. | |||
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Without a doubt, CEBs will be easier on your barrels. Check the data as suggested. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Do you known on about which page for the barrel strain test info......there is almost 300 pages total. If not I can probably search it. Thanks | |||
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Why reinvent the wheel? Use Woodleighs and call it good. Dead is dead. Kynock/Woodleigh style bullets have killed more elephants than we can fathom over the last 100 years. Brett DRSS Life Member SCI Life Member NRA Life Member WSF Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick. And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too. May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep. May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip. -Seth Peterson | |||
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Sound wisdom. Like father, like son. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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It's not . Better you use FMJ bullets , and depending of the condition of your rifle , not too thick jacketed . The old DR are normally regulated with SP bullets , ---nickel coated bullets (!!?) . For my old DR 577NE from 1909 i prefer to use the old FMJ Kynoch bullets . I have a lot of old cartridges . For my 600NE from 1926 i am not sure that the very thick jacketed FMJ bullets from Woodleigh are safe . | |||
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I've seen three vintage double rifles with overstressed rifling. One was extremely severe and the owner had shot quite a few early Barnes monometal bullets through it. I dabbled a little with Northforks in my doubles but finally settled on Woodleighs since they always shot well. I use the Woodleigh solids very sparingly to check regulation and when I shot elephant, other than that, I use the Woodleigh softs. I figure they work well so why tempt fate. I wouldn't be worried about the new bullets in a modern rifle. | |||
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I would go read the information posted by Michael458. This actual data collected using proper technique and real strain gages. If I was loading for a vintage rifle I would slug the bore and buy bullets that are the proper size. Many of the old rifles varied greatly from the listed specks. I would not hesitate to shoot one of their bullets in a vintage double as it will produce less strain on the rifle barrels. Bill Member DSC,DRSS,NRA,TSRA A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain There ought to be one day - just one – when there is open season on Congressmen. ~Will Rogers~ | |||
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When I shot original Kynoch projectiles out of my 450-400 they always printed lower than Woodleighs. I always attributed that to a thinner jacket thus less dwell time in the barrel that the thicker jackets of the Woodleighs. I shoot Woodleighs and CEB 13's now and love both. Dutch | |||
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