Pre-War British Dbl Rifle?

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25 April 2014, 20:45

MHC_TX

Pre-War British Dbl Rifle?

Are Cutting Edge Solids and Northfork solids safe (i.e., won't damage the barrel) to shoot in a pre-War British made double rifle? Or should I stick with Woodleigh solids?

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25 April 2014, 21:52

MikeBurke

I have shot both in my 450-400 Boswell. No issues. To me they would be easier on the barrel than a copper and steel jacketed lead bullet.

25 April 2014, 22:40

Bill73

I would not hesitate to use North Fork's in any gun,just make sure the size is right for the gun.

25 April 2014, 22:58

MacD37

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Originally posted by Bill73:
I would not hesitate to use North Fork's in any gun,just make sure the size is right for the gun.

I agree with Bill, just slug the barrels of the rifle to make sure it is a standard bore & land before shooting them it the rifle. If it has a standard bore both are safe in the rifle!

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25 April 2014, 23:20

MHC_TX

quote:
Originally posted by Mike70560: To me they would be easier on the barrel than a copper and steel jacketed lead bullet.

This was my thought too.....just wanted to confirm it.

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26 April 2014, 00:46

srose

Go to Michael458s B&M site or the Double Rifle Bullet of the Future thread and read about barrel strain tests he and I did. Make you own conclusions on which would be safer.

26 April 2014, 01:49

jorge

Without a doubt, CEBs will be easier on your barrels. Check the data as suggested.

26 April 2014, 04:39

MHC_TX

quote:
Originally posted by srose:
Go to Michael458s B&M site or the Double Rifle Bullet of the Future thread and read about barrel strain tests he and I did. Make you own conclusions on which would be safer.

Do you known on about which page for the barrel strain test info......there is almost 300 pages total. If not I can probably search it.

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01 May 2014, 21:59

BrettAKSCI

quote:
Originally posted by MHC_TX:
Are Cutting Edge Solids and Northfork solids safe (i.e., won't damage the barrel) to shoot in a pre-War British made double rifle? Or should I stick with Woodleigh solids? It's kind of like someone telling me there's a better expanding bullet than a triple shock for my Alaskan rifles. Ok........so are the animals I killed any less dead?

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Why reinvent the wheel? Use Woodleighs and call it good. Dead is dead. Kynock/Woodleigh style bullets have killed more elephants than we can fathom over the last 100 years.

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01 May 2014, 22:33

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Why reinvent the wheel? Use Woodleighs and call it good. Dead is dead. Kynock/Woodleigh style bullets have killed more elephants than we can fathom over the last 100 years.

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02 May 2014, 00:22

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quote:
Originally posted by MHC_TX:
Are Cutting Edge Solids and Northfork solids safe (i.e., won't damage the barrel) to shoot in a pre-War British made double rifle? Or should I stick with Woodleigh solids?

Thanks

It's not .

Better you use FMJ bullets , and depending of the condition of your rifle , not too thick jacketed . The old DR are normally regulated with SP bullets , ---nickel coated bullets (!!?) .

For my old DR 577NE from 1909 i prefer to use the old FMJ Kynoch bullets . I have a lot of old cartridges .

For my 600NE from 1926 i am not sure that the very thick jacketed FMJ bullets from Woodleigh are safe .

02 May 2014, 02:07

470Evans

I've seen three vintage double rifles with overstressed rifling. One was extremely severe and the owner had shot quite a few early Barnes monometal bullets through it. I dabbled a little with Northforks in my doubles but finally settled on Woodleighs since they always shot well. I use the Woodleigh solids very sparingly to check regulation and when I shot elephant, other than that, I use the Woodleigh softs. I figure they work well so why tempt fate. I wouldn't be worried about the new bullets in a modern rifle.

05 May 2014, 08:01

Bill Cooley

I would go read the information posted by Michael458. This actual data collected using proper technique and real strain gages. If I was loading for a vintage rifle I would slug the bore and buy bullets that are the proper size. Many of the old rifles varied greatly from the listed specks. I would not hesitate to shoot one of their bullets in a vintage double as it will produce less strain on the rifle barrels.
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06 May 2014, 01:32

Dutch44

When I shot original Kynoch projectiles out of my 450-400 they always printed lower than Woodleighs. I always attributed that to a thinner jacket thus less dwell time in the barrel that the thicker jackets of the Woodleighs. I shoot Woodleighs and CEB 13's now and love both.

Dutch