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As some of you know, I've done a bit of reloading for the 450 in both a Sabatti and now my Verney. The Verney was regulated with factory ammo and it prints a lovey 3/4"@50 and exactly like the regulation target. I've also developed matching loads using Hornady bullets myself but I wanted a more proven bullet and below are my final loads that repeat pretty regularly, albeit I still keep canting the rifle off the bench a bit. CEB 450gr Non-Con 101gr H-4831 MV 2170:  Hornady 480gr DGX 98gr H-4831 MV 2130  Woodleigh 480gr RN 100gr H-4831 MV 2150:  All rounds crimped with custom made Lee Factory Crimp die. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | ||
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Great shooting, Jorge. Love that caliber. Dutch | |||
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Yep I think you have a shooter! | |||
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That'll hunt for sure. Well done. Mike | |||
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Jorge, You have got to love a rifle that shoots like that! | |||
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Muzzle velocity is excellent! My regulation loads are in the 96 gr. range. Not quite to the magic 2150 fps! Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Peter, I can get them to regulate at 96, especially the Hornadys, but velocity drops below 2100. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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....................................................................  Right on Jorge!....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Hey Jorge you use a 12 or 14" pie plate to trace those circles.....  I attribute Jorge's shooting skills to the fact that the planes he flew had guns and not missiles Nice shooting now we gotta get you in front of something other than paper... | |||
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Hub caps!  ,,torpedoes Harpoon & Maverick..USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Jorge, That looks like it maybe a groundhog rifle. I can tell from experience, they don't get up and run away. Great shooting. Mike | |||
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Mike, I WILL test it on Ground Hogs in September! softs or solids ?USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Jorge like Buff you have to read each one differently In my vast experience hunting our Woodchucks here in Vermont the ones found in clover, unless anchored with your first shot tend to charge where as the ones found in meadow grass seem to absorb the first shot and not move either way. I think this can be attributed to the nitrogen content on the clover.....  Hot Barrels | |||
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... Serious question for you guys. Look at the Woodleigh target. They trend more in the vertical than either the CEBs or the Hornadys but do group very tightly. As I've said before I think it's me canting the rifle off the bench, but would bringing the velocity down help to correct this?USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Looks to me like the Hornady groups the tightest. That is probably the bullet the gun was regulated with at factory. Bearing surface, diameter, length and many other factors have something to do with it. I've had guns that shot up and down with one bullet or load and side to side with another. None of your groups are bad so shoot the bullet you want to shoot and work up a load for that bullet. | |||
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You are correct sir, rifle was regulated with Hornadys. I can usually get the CEBs (450gr) to shoot just as tight. I'm pretty happy with the groups but it's just me being anal retentive And just to give you further thought as to I think it might just be me canting the rifle of the bench, same Hornady load shot 30 secs later: USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Could be your eyes too. With express irons you are doing pretty good. I wouldn't worry about it. | |||
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Eyes??? To a Naval Aviator! noooo! Well, I will be 59 next month USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Jorge, Whenever I get vertical stringing between barrels I can rest assured that it is a me not the rifle. All that shows is a maybe a slight jerk on the trigger or possibly a little flinch on the low round. It happens to the best of us. | |||
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Thanks! I'm sure that's what it is. Hell as long as they regulate that close I should just be happy. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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"The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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Great performance from that VC.  D/R Hunter Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal... | |||
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