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FOR YOU 450NE LADS..
18 August 2013, 20:47
jorgeFOR YOU 450NE LADS..
As some of you know, I've done a bit of reloading for the 450 in both a Sabatti and now my Verney.
The Verney was regulated with factory ammo and it prints a lovey 3/4"@50 and exactly like the regulation target. I've also developed matching loads using Hornady bullets myself but I wanted a more proven bullet and below are my final loads that repeat pretty regularly, albeit I still keep canting the rifle off the bench a bit.
CEB 450gr Non-Con 101gr H-4831 MV 2170:
Hornady 480gr DGX 98gr H-4831 MV 2130
Woodleigh 480gr RN 100gr H-4831 MV 2150:
All rounds crimped with custom made Lee Factory Crimp die. jorge
USN (ret)
DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
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18 August 2013, 21:20
Dutch44Great shooting, Jorge. Love that caliber.
Dutch
18 August 2013, 21:26
sroseYep I think you have a shooter!
19 August 2013, 01:01
MJinesThat'll hunt for sure. Well done.
Mike
19 August 2013, 02:49
surestrikeJorge,
You have got to love a rifle that shoots like that!
19 August 2013, 03:24
PeterMuzzle velocity is excellent! My regulation loads are in the 96 gr. range. Not quite to the magic 2150 fps!
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19 August 2013, 03:59
jorgePeter, I can get them to regulate at 96, especially the Hornadys, but velocity drops below 2100.
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DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
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19 August 2013, 04:58
MacD37quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
As some of you know, I've done a bit of reloading for the 450 in both a Sabatti and now my Verney.
The Verney was regulated with factory ammo and it prints a lovey 3/4"@50 and exactly like the regulation target. I've also developed matching loads using Hornady bullets myself but I wanted a more proven bullet and below are my final loads that repeat pretty regularly, albeit I still keep canting the rifle off the bench a bit.
CEB 450gr Non-Con 101gr H-4831 MV 2170:
Hornady 480gr DGX 98gr H-4831 MV 2130
Woodleigh 480gr RN 100gr H-4831 MV 2150:
All rounds crimped with custom made Lee Factory Crimp die. jorge
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Right on Jorge!
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19 August 2013, 05:02
ZephyrHey Jorge you use a 12 or 14" pie plate to trace those circles.....

I attribute Jorge's shooting skills to the fact that the planes he flew had guns and not missiles
Nice shooting now we gotta get you in front of something other than paper...
19 August 2013, 05:08
jorgeHub caps!

,,torpedoes Harpoon & Maverick..
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DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
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19 August 2013, 07:42
retreeverJorge,
That looks like it maybe a groundhog rifle. I can tell from experience, they don't get up and run away. Great shooting.
Mike

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19 August 2013, 16:24
jorgeMike, I WILL test it on Ground Hogs in September! softs or solids

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DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
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19 August 2013, 16:40
ZephyrJorge like Buff you have to read each one differently In my vast experience hunting our Woodchucks here in Vermont the ones found in clover, unless anchored with your first shot tend to charge where as the ones found in meadow grass seem to absorb the first shot and not move either way. I think this can be attributed to the nitrogen content on the clover.....
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19 August 2013, 21:40
jorge
... Serious question for you guys. Look at the Woodleigh target. They trend more in the vertical than either the CEBs or the Hornadys but do group very tightly. As I've said before I think it's me canting the rifle off the bench, but would bringing the velocity down help to correct this?
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DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
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19 August 2013, 22:26
sroseLooks to me like the Hornady groups the tightest. That is probably the bullet the gun was regulated with at factory. Bearing surface, diameter, length and many other factors have something to do with it. I've had guns that shot up and down with one bullet or load and side to side with another. None of your groups are bad so shoot the bullet you want to shoot and work up a load for that bullet.
19 August 2013, 22:30
jorgeYou are correct sir, rifle was regulated with Hornadys. I can usually get the CEBs (450gr) to shoot just as tight. I'm pretty happy with the groups but it's just me being anal retentive

And just to give you further thought as to I think it might just be me canting the rifle of the bench, same Hornady load shot 30 secs later:
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Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
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20 August 2013, 00:35
sroseCould be your eyes too. With express irons you are doing pretty good. I wouldn't worry about it.
20 August 2013, 01:46
jorgeEyes??? To a Naval Aviator! noooo! Well, I will be 59 next month

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DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
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20 August 2013, 20:10
surestrikeJorge,
Whenever I get vertical stringing between barrels I can rest assured that it is a me not the rifle. All that shows is a maybe a slight jerk on the trigger or possibly a little flinch on the low round.
It happens to the best of us.
20 August 2013, 20:11
jorgeThanks! I'm sure that's what it is. Hell as long as they regulate that close I should just be happy.
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DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE
Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE
Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE
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21 August 2013, 01:20
JCS271quote:
Originally posted by jorge:
Thanks! I'm sure that's what it is. Hell as long as they regulate that close I should just be happy.

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21 August 2013, 07:05
D R HunterGreat performance from that VC.

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Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal...