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I know the 4350's and R-15 are popular. Does anyone shoot anything else in their .500 NE's??? Barnes does not even list the above in their new manual. They list H380, H414, VIT N540, & IMR 4007SSC. Anyone shoot any of those in the .500 NE? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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ledvm: IMR 4831 and this I use in all of my nitro doubles. In the .500 105-106 grains seems to work in doubles just fine. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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+1 I load IMR-4831 for Nganga's .500 NE. Cal, I load 110.0grs IMR-4831 under a 570 gr Woodleigh with Fed 215 primer which regulates perfectly and gives right at about 2,150fps in Steve's .500 NE which, IIRC, is the same load Butch Searcy regulates with. Just wondering why you are loading 4 to 5 grains less (or I am loading 4 to 5 grains more). Is that out of the deference to older vintage rifles or were they regulated to a lower velocity or is there just that much spread in regulating charge weights between different rifles? Thanks, Andy | |||
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Shooting VV N150 in both 470NE and 500NE. My 500 load are 94 grains with Barnes TSX and 93 grain with Barnes BS. | |||
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Andy: Good day. I load to regulation. The .500s I have loaded for worked fine with 105-6 grains. Others may use a bit more or less. Even though the original cordite charge was the same, time adds a few variables such as bore wear. 1 or 2 thousandths of wear would generate a bit less pressure thereby necessitating a bit increase of powder. And, each rifle is unique in its own way. Such as the 75% rule--it works fine in some rifles and not even close in other rifles. With all the above, it is possible to add a few grains to my load and I'm sure pressures would remain safe and regulation would be fine. I just stopped on the low side of safe when the barrels printed together. Also, new rifles can be made to any regulated load. Older rifles were most likely tested with 28-inch proof barrels and one must subtract velocity from the stated 2150 fps if the barrels (in a vintage rifle) are 24- or 26 inches. I doubt a vintage .500 nitro double with, say 24-inch barrels, achieved 2150 fps muzzle velocity--more like 2050 or even a bit less. Hope his helps. Cheers, mate. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Thanks Cal, That's what I wanted to know. Hope you are doing well! Andy | |||
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Cane: My pleasure. Hell, I make all this stuff up anyway! Cheers and keep smilin', Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Ledvm, I looked back at some of the work done on my 500 NE and found I got 2092 fps with the old 2 band BBW#13 and 105 grains of IMR 4350. I could not find data on the new 4 band but I think it was around 2070 fps with same load. Sam | |||
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Good, does that mean we can load them down a bit? Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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Since we need to work up new loads anyway we'll start at 104.0 or 105.0 grains as Cal is loading and see how it shoots. So, in a word, maybe. | |||
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