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.500 NE powders
27 April 2011, 00:10
ledvm.500 NE powders
I know the 4350's and R-15 are popular. Does anyone shoot anything else in their .500 NE's???
Barnes does not even list the above in their new manual. They list H380, H414, VIT N540, & IMR 4007SSC.
Anyone shoot any of those in the .500 NE?
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27 April 2011, 03:22
cal pappasledvm:
IMR 4831 and this I use in all of my nitro doubles. In the .500 105-106 grains seems to work in doubles just fine.
Cal
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27 April 2011, 03:37
Cane Ratquote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
ledvm:
IMR 4831 and this I use in all of my nitro doubles. In the .500 105-106 grains seems to work in doubles just fine.
Cal
+1
I load IMR-4831 for Nganga's .500 NE.
Cal,
I load 110.0grs IMR-4831 under a 570 gr Woodleigh with Fed 215 primer which regulates perfectly and gives right at about 2,150fps in Steve's .500 NE which, IIRC, is the same load Butch Searcy regulates with. Just wondering why you are loading 4 to 5 grains less (or I am loading 4 to 5 grains more). Is that out of the deference to older vintage rifles or were they regulated to a lower velocity or is there just that much spread in regulating charge weights between different rifles?
Thanks,
Andy
28 April 2011, 01:03
LitespeedShooting VV N150 in both 470NE and 500NE. My 500 load are 94 grains with Barnes TSX and 93 grain with Barnes BS.
28 April 2011, 03:10
cal pappasAndy:
Good day. I load to regulation. The .500s I have loaded for worked fine with 105-6 grains. Others may use a bit more or less. Even though the original cordite charge was the same, time adds a few variables such as bore wear. 1 or 2 thousandths of wear would generate a bit less pressure thereby necessitating a bit increase of powder. And, each rifle is unique in its own way. Such as the 75% rule--it works fine in some rifles and not even close in other rifles. With all the above, it is possible to add a few grains to my load and I'm sure pressures would remain safe and regulation would be fine. I just stopped on the low side of safe when the barrels printed together. Also, new rifles can be made to any regulated load. Older rifles were most likely tested with 28-inch proof barrels and one must subtract velocity from the stated 2150 fps if the barrels (in a vintage rifle) are 24- or 26 inches. I doubt a vintage .500 nitro double with, say 24-inch barrels, achieved 2150 fps muzzle velocity--more like 2050 or even a bit less.
Hope his helps.
Cheers, mate.
Cal
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28 April 2011, 03:52
Cane RatThanks Cal,
That's what I wanted to know. Hope you are doing well!
Andy
28 April 2011, 07:08
cal pappasCane:
My pleasure. Hell, I make all this stuff up anyway!
Cheers and keep smilin',
Cal
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28 April 2011, 07:41
sroseLedvm,
I looked back at some of the work done on my 500 NE and found I got 2092 fps with the old 2 band BBW#13 and 105 grains of IMR 4350. I could not find data on the new 4 band but I think it was around 2070 fps with same load.
Sam
28 April 2011, 09:24
Steve Ahrenbergquote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
Cane:
My pleasure. Hell, I make all this stuff up anyway!
Cheers and keep smilin',
Cal
Good, does that mean we can load them down a bit?
Formerly "Nganga"
28 April 2011, 19:53
Cane Ratquote:
Originally posted by Nganga:
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
Cane:
My pleasure. Hell, I make all this stuff up anyway!
Cheers and keep smilin',
Cal
Good, does that mean we can load them down a bit?
Since we need to work up new loads anyway we'll start at 104.0 or 105.0 grains as Cal is loading and see how it shoots. So, in a word, maybe.