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Guys, I am looking for a cartridge belt to carry for buff and ele hunt. Any suggestions out there and, if so, why should I choose that specific belt ? Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | ||
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The ones made by Dick Murray are very nice. So are the ones sold by Chris Sells but I am not sure if they are available off the shelf, Dick's are. Mike | |||
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+1. I have several.they are great! | |||
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Thanks Mike and Larry. Open or closed loops ? The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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I prefer the closed loops. Sometimes over time open loops will expand and fail to hold the cartridges securely. Others like the open loops since they say they can push the cartridges up from the bottom. The good news with Dick Murray's holders is that the loops are elastic, representing the best of both worlds. Mike | |||
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Are yiou bringing more than one rifle, if so what calibers? | |||
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Can't go wrong with anything from Trader Keith. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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If I bring two there will be 375 HH and 450 NE. The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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I like the belts and or slides from Dick Murray as well. He lives just down the road from my house and I've dropped in a couple of times. His products are first rate and if he doesn't have what you want in stock, he'll make it for you. Personally, I like the open loops. I like the ability to push the cartridges up from the bottom and I never have to worry about the (closed) loops getting too loose to hold the rounds as they stretch. When that happens, with the open loops, just push the rounds further down into the loops. I've had too many rounds fall out of the closed loop type. | |||
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Trader Kieth's culling belt. You can't go wrong. Nitro "Man is a predator or at least those of us that kill and eat our own meat are. The rest are scavengers, eating what others kill for them." Hugh Randall DRSS, BASA 470 Krieghoff, 45-70 inserts, 12 ga paradox, 20 ga DR Simson/Schimmel, 12 ga DR O/U Famars, 12 ga DR SXS Greener | |||
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Morton, Dick Murray made my belts., one for each calibre , and they are the best I have seen. I,like Todd, much Prefer the open loops for easier/ quicker reloads. Cheers Nick | |||
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I've got both, the Trader Keith and one of the Murray belts. I think I prefer the canvas one from Trader Keith over the leather. Nothing wrong with the Murray, just preference. | |||
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have a look at this guys work here in Australia I just got one done and couldn't be happier with the quality www.joshualeather.com  | |||
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Texas Hunt Co. Works well and will last. Tom ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, duke of York ". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand Cogito ergo venor- KPete “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.” ― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations” | |||
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I don't always agree with Todd but in this case open loops are the only way to go. Not only can the cartridges be extracted more easily but both a pull and a push, but the closed loops pick up and hold water, dirt, and mole shit. So, Todd, old mate, I'm with you on this one. However, I will leave you to your Blasers and admiration of Shootaway. Cheers, gents. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I have taken a look on Todd's video again and the report from Nickh and both use the Murray belt with open loops. Looks nice and I agree and will probably follow your recommendations. Sorry Mike... no 26 inch barrel and no closed loops  I leave a cigar or two for you in camp for compensation  The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Tom, du you have an internett address to Texas Hunt Co ? I understand they some other nice products as well I would like to have look at. Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Cal, somehow I think you got the wrong message from that Blaser/shootaway comic thread. In reality, I'm not sure which of the two I DESPISE more! Just to be clear on the matter ... One is a totally useless Piece of S&*T. The other is an absolutely ugly rifle!  Other than that Cal, I really can't remember us disagreeing on anything except the use of proper flat nosed solids in double rifles.  | |||
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I brought a double and a bolt gun on my hunt as well. I purchased a 2" belt from Murray and four 10 round belt slides from him. 2 leather for my double and two 2 elastic for my bolt gun. 10 solids and 10 softs in each for their respective rifles. When I grabbed a different rifle I slid off and on new slides..  | |||
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Hey Morten, you're getting it now. We just need to get you off of those beavertail fore-ends and love of Blasers and you'll be all set! on both of those! | |||
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Agreed. I have tried all the others except Chris Sells and always come back to the Belt Feed. Mac | |||
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There is a lot to be said for open loops no one likes mole shit on there solids... To cure stretched leather loops I am under the impression that a soaking in water or alcohol will be the cure, but this is a question better asked of Dick Murray. | |||
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Yes, that will tighten them up for sure. Trouble is, when you're in the field and a round or two falls out of the closed loop due to stretching, what do you do until getting back to camp that evening to tend to the loops? Put the rounds in your pocket? With the open loops, a bit of water back at camp followed by a drying session will also tighten them up, but while in the field until you can tend to them properly, just push the cartridge further down into the loop to hold it securely. Remember that even a "straight walled" case such as the 500 or 577 is tapered to some degree. Pushing them down further into the loop tightens the grip on the cartridge. Funny how we'll nit pick this crap to no end isn't it. 26" vs 24" barrels, ejectors vs extractors, bolt vs double ... the list goes on and on!  Good thing there are some absolutes though ... such as shootaway being an Ass Clown! | |||
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No concerns Morten. I figure not being in the same camp with Todd and Nick is actually a validation of my position.  The noble title of dissident must be earned, not claimed.Mike | |||
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I have hunted small game for years with a 12 gauge closed loop leather shot shell belt and never had a shell fall out.I like it when you push them down and they stop and are all even height. We would put bees wax snow seal on the leather and warm it up so it was absorbed.Walking through the waist high dew soaked weeds would really dry up unprotected leather.This way the belt would last forever and still no shells fell out.Now if you turned the belt upside down and shook it I am sure they would fall out.I am glad my Lott belt was hand made using quality leather and the loops were sewn around my ammo for a snug fit to begin with. | |||
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I to like the ammo carrier from Texas Hunt Co. The benefit is you can close it and the ammo stays secure and when you get to where you may need to reload you can open it and it is a secure platform to load from. http://www.texashuntco.com/Pro...ails.asp?ProductID=5 True this isn’t a traditional style belt but I think it works better. Bill Member DSC,DRSS,NRA,TSRA A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain There ought to be one day - just one – when there is open season on Congressmen. ~Will Rogers~ | |||
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Well Todd, wait and see about the small beavertail on my new VC - maybe you will be surprised ? You have to wait a while though.. it is going to be produced first, then it travels to London for color case hardening and then back for finish .. delivery in beginning of 2015 ! About the Blasers; I will send you a Blaser family picture as soon as the new one arrives. I am as stubborn as you are in these matters .. The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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texashuntco.com They have very good daypacks and other accessories for hunting. I have used their products and their customer service is very good. Tom
...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, duke of York ". . . when a man has shot an elephant his life is full." ~John Alfred Jordan "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand Cogito ergo venor- KPete “It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages.” ― Adam Smith - “Wealth of Nations” | |||
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Todd: You're a good mate and I hope you can find the time to visit Alaska and join us for a double shoot--perhaps this May. I agree with you and was just pulling your leg. You are spot on about both Shootaway and Blaser. I was sad to learn Blaser bought London Rigby. Kind of like a porn star buying the Miss. America contest. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Maybe there is a BlaserRigby on its way ? A total Rigby tool with Blasers name on it ! What then gentlemen ?  The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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Boyt makes nice 5 and 10 round slides. I use the magnum ones for nitros. You can get them from Calelas. Also Jeff's Outfitters has some pretty good ones. | |||
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I know Sam, but the Boyt slides are closed ! I would like them open ! The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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I'll be in Alaska early September. I'd love to stop by for a little range session! | |||
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Todd, bring a RigbyBlaser  The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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I like Dick's closed nylon version, and have also used a Tex Hunt Co. slide on that belt. Good stuff all, but I still preffer to have two on my right wrist, in that I load with my left hand. Hunting tuskless around large cow herds will do that to you. Mine is homemade nylon, but I recall brother Jines had a nice leather wrist band. | |||
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Norwegian, Just do like Todd did and take a chain saw to the bottom of the loops. Sam | |||
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That was interesting to learn about. Maybe Mike can fill in with a photo of it and where to find this ? The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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He did ?? You must be kidding me !? Morten The more I know, the less I wonder ! | |||
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That's actually not far off the mark! I purchased a leather culling belt from Cabelas, really not sure of the brand any more as it's been awhile. Got damed tired of loosing rounds out of the top of the loops, even with the wetting and drying method as they would continue to stretch during each outing. So I took a box cutter to the bottoms and opened them up. If you look closely at my 500NE belt, you'll see the bottom line is crooked from my hack job. One of these days I'm going to clean up that belt and make it look proper. But for now, it works and works well. One thing I have begun doing however, and this goes along with my theory of cutting as much weight as possible on those long, hot tracking jobs of late season, but which also helps tremendously in speeding up reloading the double, is to place two rounds, skip one, two rounds, skip one, etc. This gives me 10 rounds on the belt plus two in the chambers and separates each reload from the next on the belt. Here's a pic of that belt loaded:  | |||
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