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Has anybody actually got one mounted on a double ? I like to fit this to my trusted Merkel boxlock I also want to retain the option of using factory iron sights when removed If you are curious I enjoy hunting hippos on land which invariably means shooting in relatively low ambient light condition I know aimpoint make a double mount for merkel If you have fitted one how much higher does it raise the mount from the iron sight axis ? I shoot my double like a trap gun and very conscious of cheek pressure | ||
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On a double rifle, I prefer the Doctor Optic, on a QD mount over all others. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I've got a Fastfire2 on mine and like it! NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Such as that and scopes rate right up there with incest on a double gun!! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Nah, I'd just shove a 4-12 variable on the thing. Nothing looks better on a classic double than some lumpy optical new-age wonder totally at adds with the underlying concept. But for Christ's sake, whatever you do, don't use the purpose-built iron sights developed specifically for use with the rifle. | |||
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Wasn't there an old saying about tits on a boar? If the Good Lord wanted such sights on a fine double he would have put them on starting in the 1870s. Leaf and express sights only! Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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+1 Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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What about for a follow up in the dark? ROYAL KAFUE LTD Email - kafueroyal@gmail.com Tel/Whatsapp (00260) 975315144 Instagram - kafueroyal | |||
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Follow up in the dark? Heavy ivory bead "night" or "moon" sight. If it's too dark to use this, wait until morning. This thread is akin to putting Rosie O'Donnel's face on Raquel Welsh's body. Uhhhhhhhh. That means it's a two bagger. Put a bag over her head and one over your head in case hers falls off! Cheers, gents. Cal (one opinionated Alaskan) _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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I was waiting for the anti's to come out What took you so long ...... | |||
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Andrew that's exactly what this was for At least I was hoping I was with Thor sitting out for the hippos by Munyamadzi with by double Couldn't seethe front sight at all I did bring a bottle of luminous face paint that's kids use for party face painting and it worked well A dab on the front bead And rear leaf did the trick I have been pondering since my return and came across an adaptor aimpoint made for Merkel and nothing else I have been practicing shooting in ver very low light with the aimpoint and blue tac and I am confident this is a practical solution I have ordered the mount and it should be here next week It has virtually no eye relieve and one will be hooting with both eyes open with no loss of DEPTH Perfect for CQB n the bush Ok chance of losing zero So its either that or no seeing the front sight and snap shooting by instinct Regards Looking forward to meeting you n the ground one of these days | |||
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I have an old Westley Richards Catalog from the 1800's that shows several of their double rifles with scopes on them. I also have some old catalogs from the same time that show flashlight mounts for rifles... DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Poking out mind's eye with a fork right now... H. Cole Stage III, FRGS ISC(PJ), USN (Ret) "You do not have a right to an opinion. An opinion should be the result of careful thought, not an excuse for it." Harlan Ellison " War is God's way to teach Americans geography." Ambrose Bierce | |||
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No one likes change, but change happens. The first "holo" sight I saw on a double was at Champlin Firearms in JJ's shop. This was 15 years ago. I thought it was an abomination. Until I picked it up and saw how quickly you got on target. Today I have a Fastfire 3 on my vintage British double rifle. My eyes like it a lot. The image changes intensity according to the background it is against. No one likes change, until they see how good it is for themselves! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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I am guilty of that line of thinking. I always felt that red dots on doubles was a bit of an abomination as Cal says. But I tried a Trijicon and a Docter Optik and both have really improved my shooting. The shooting improvement notwithstanding, for hunting I think I will pull them off. For me I found that it was just one more thing to worry about, e.g., is the battery still good, have they been knocked out of alignment, are they dirty, etc. In keeping with the KISS principle I will probably go back to using irons only for hunting. But even an old dog can learn new tricks, I did. Mike | |||
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We all must face the facts; our eyes don't always serve us as well as they once had... Dang it. D/R Hunter Correct bullet placement, combined with the required depth of bullet penetration, results in an anchored animal... | |||
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Pay no attention to this person.. He thinks that adding milk and sugar to breakfast cereal is an abomination against nature Ewell Gibbons had it right with tree bark and nuts as a staple diet. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Not me Rusty I'm sot in my ways, my way or the highway with doubles and guns and horses and wimmen and oh well you get the idea.. I have been blessed with nostalgia, old age,good eyes and reflexes and the ability to disregard all things new and modern otherwise it was all for naught. Love dem iron sights, carry a flashlight and love the smell of death in the tall grass! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I am guilty of that line of thinking. I always felt that red dots on doubles was a bit of an abomination as Cal says. But I tried a Trijicon and a Docter Optik and both have really improved my shooting. I'd rather remain the crappy shot that I am. Just my opinion, mate. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Attention readers. Mike Brooks and Shootaway are one in the same. I have photographic evidence. (Well, maybe they are identical twins). Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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For me, the choice is simple. Leave my double as is and let it stand in the gun safe, or use the FastFire and do what I really like to do, shoot my double! Most of my rifles wear a scope or holographic sight. Just a fact of life. My old eyes need help and I like to shoot. You need to do what you feel is best. I did! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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Cal, thats just as well as I would have to shoot you if you were to put anything of that nature on a vintage double. Besides which, crappy shooting means nothing at 20m. See you soon. Ian Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Ouch! That was a very low blow! Somewhere around my bunion! Cal needs the biggest bullets possible. If he gets it somewhere in the ballpark with a 4 bore or the 600 something is going to fall down. Sometimes it's him sometimes a critter. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Mike and Ian: My 4-bore shoots a one inch one shot group at any distance. Amazing accuracy! Ian, my rifles will remain as they were made. However, should I disappear on my hunt with you, and they you begin hunting with a .600, Mike will come after you as he is the beneficiary in my will. See you in about 9 days. Two buff on ticket so I'll bring two cartridges. Cheers, mates. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Hope the airlines do not check your luggage. Two cartridges will put you well over the 5 kilo ammunition limit. Mike | |||
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If his new knee goes out on him, he can use those two rounds to make a dandy splint! NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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I don't know about dandey but realey classey. Bill Member DSC,DRSS,NRA,TSRA A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain There ought to be one day - just one – when there is open season on Congressmen. ~Will Rogers~ | |||
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Looking forward to it Cal. Should I arrange porters to lug those two cartridges around then? I think I am looking forward to holding that rifle as much as the hunt. Specialist Outfitters and Big Game Hounds An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill | |||
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Have them tote along a stretcher for him and another few to pack that cannon with ammo. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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You guys would not pick on me so if you knew how sensitive I truly am. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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I will work on this with my therapist. New illness will be diagnosed: AR abuse. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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If you identify a good therapist for that syndrome, you might drop Boddington a note with the name. Mike | |||
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Craig AND Mark. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Sounds like you will be able to get a group rate. NRA Life ASSRA Life DRSS Today's Quote: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, food stamps, section 8 housing, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime. | |||
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