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This looks to me to be a black powder muzzel loader DR.

Anyone care to take a guess of the caliber? (I have no idea what it is, but it looks massive!)



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Posts: 2789 | Location: Bucks County, Pennsylvania | Registered: 08 June 2005Reply With Quote
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comparing it to one I recently saw and handled, a 4 bore DR.


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Interesting photo. One would certainly want a couple of trustworthy gunbearers to carry that and the backup rifle.


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my guess is a 4 bore


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Watched the end of a show on TV a few weeks ago the guy had just taken an elephant with a muzzle loader. It was a 58calb using solids they had turned on a lathe. I have tried to catch the show again but havent found it yet.
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ibelieve this is the same kill I watched on tv at this link.
video of kill
 
Posts: 1057 | Location: adirondacks,NY ,USA | Registered: 30 December 2001Reply With Quote
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I wonder how he transported the black powder.
 
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Held a 8 bore at the Vintager's shoot in September...It is double the size....

Definately .... 4 bore

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I wonder how he transported the black powder.


Technically, I think you are supposed to source powder and percussion caps locally and not transport them in your luggage.
 
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I wonder how he transported the black powder.


I've heard of guys taking loaded shells full of black powder. Then just pulling them apart at the destination.

If you took a few boxes of shot shells with nothing but BP in them, you could probably take enough. (would static charges on the hulls be an issue?)

Not sure about the caps.

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Who cares how he got the powder there. Maybe used something else? Most importantly he used that monstor and lived long enough to have his picture taken! animal Damn! That's a big one!


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Did anyone find out who made that Double Rifle?Also what caliber is it?And last what show was it on?
 
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he's my neighbor...I see him testing his bullets at the range occasionally. I will run over to the shop tomorrow and have my picture taken with the rifle...then get Boomie to post it for y'all...ah fame!!

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IdahoSharpshooter,
please get us any info available on it. Cost, date made, maker, bl length,weight, loads used,bore diameter. Hell, I don't want much do I ??? These guns just make me drool ALOT!! And your pictures will be greatly appreciated by alot more than just me, I'm sure. THANKS
 
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I think a muzzle loader SxS 4 Bore will be my

SECOND double, NOT THAT I HAVE THE FIRST YET.

Bring on all possible details PLEASE!!!



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These rifles appear in the hands of Bradley and Amy Martin on the cover of Calitz's 2005 brochure. No words as to the rifles.
 
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You get the powder in by loading a wad on top of a full case of black powder in shot shells, and take a shotgun with you so the shot shells will be importable. You then break the shot shells down in camp, and put the powder in a large container or Horn, and the bullets in your possibles bag. Four or five boxes of 12 ga shot shells filled with BP will shoot a lot of game, and it is light so you can take a lot of shot shell full of nothing but BP in in your ammo weight limit!


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has anyone thought to e mail john cailitz with the questions about the rifle ??

idaho sharpshooter - did you get any pics of the rifle and details. we are waiting !!

just a guess --- it is a ken owen built rifle -

i know he built double 4 bore breechloaders, single 4 bore muzzloaders... and why not a double muzzleloader ?


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Idaho Sharpshooter,
Don't be teasing us about more pictures!! We need a big gun fix. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and say he is on vacation over the holidays. But when he gets back, PLEASE get some info and photos posted. thanks
 
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