Saw this photo on Johan Calitz's website...

15 December 2006, 17:29

577NitroExpress

This looks to me to be a black powder muzzel loader DR.

Anyone care to take a guess of the caliber? (I have no idea what it is, but it looks massive!)

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15 December 2006, 18:45

tonto

Watched the end of a show on TV a few weeks ago the guy had just taken an elephant with a muzzle loader. It was a 58calb using solids they had turned on a lathe. I have tried to catch the show again but havent found it yet.
Dean
ibelieve this is the same kill I watched on tv at this link.
video of kill

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16 December 2006, 01:12

Charles_Helm

quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
I wonder how he transported the black powder.

Technically, I think you are supposed to source powder and percussion caps locally and not transport them in your luggage.

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16 December 2006, 01:47

Steve

quote:
Originally posted by 500grains:
I wonder how he transported the black powder.

I've heard of guys taking loaded shells full of black powder. Then just pulling them apart at the destination.

If you took a few boxes of shot shells with nothing but BP in them, you could probably take enough. (would static charges on the hulls be an issue?)

Not sure about the caps.

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16 December 2006, 04:00

Rusty

Who cares how he got the powder there. Maybe used something else? Most importantly he used that monstor and lived long enough to have his picture taken!

Damn! That's a big one!

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16 December 2006, 07:36

Idaho Sharpshooter

he's my neighbor...I see him testing his bullets at the range occasionally. I will run over to the shop tomorrow and have my picture taken with the rifle...then get Boomie to post it for y'all...ah fame!!

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17 December 2006, 09:45

bigdoggy700

IdahoSharpshooter,
please get us any info available on it. Cost, date made, maker, bl length,weight, loads used,bore diameter. Hell, I don't want much do I ??? These guns just make me drool ALOT!! And your pictures will be greatly appreciated by alot more than just me, I'm sure. THANKS

Jack

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22 December 2006, 06:45

MacD37

You get the powder in by loading a wad on top of a full case of black powder in shot shells, and take a shotgun with you so the shot shells will be importable. You then break the shot shells down in camp, and put the powder in a large container or Horn, and the bullets in your possibles bag. Four or five boxes of 12 ga shot shells filled with BP will shoot a lot of game, and it is light so you can take a lot of shot shell full of nothing but BP in in your ammo weight limit!

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22 December 2006, 07:06

tomo577

has anyone thought to e mail john cailitz with the questions about the rifle ??

idaho sharpshooter - did you get any pics of the rifle and details. we are waiting !!

just a guess --- it is a ken owen built rifle -

i know he built double 4 bore breechloaders, single 4 bore muzzloaders... and why not a double muzzleloader ?

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24 December 2006, 23:59

bigdoggy700

Idaho Sharpshooter,
Don't be teasing us about more pictures!! We need a big gun fix. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and say he is on vacation over the holidays. But when he gets back, PLEASE get some info and photos posted. thanks