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EZ, FYI, I have been seating the NF's just below the bottom edge of the top driving band/ring. OAL Length is about the same as the Woodleighs with about .075 more protruding in the case. | |||
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We all live and learn, even me! But ole Gramme is living and learning too. In the 1st ed. he was claiming that the bullets shouldn't be crimped and then he flipped flopped for the 2nd ed. and said bullets should be crimped.  Ain't much of anything much gospel.Unless the plug is too small in diameter AND it didn't fill up the case AND there was some vastly different densities of powder versus plug OR the plug was porous for some reason, it just ain't happening. But like John Wayne said "You do what you think is best." ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Mike, Are you crimping? That is another topic all together that can stir debate, especially in a drop feed type action that will see no magazine dynamics. I never crimp in anything 338 and below but there is less bearing friction I suspect with this NF bullets between the shank and the case throat due to the bullet design. I suppose experience will give me my answer.
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I want to add to the discussion that there is much less muzzle blast and report with the rl15 loads. H 4831 is too slow for best results, I think h4350 and rl19 are better choices if you do not want to use a filler. JD DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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eezridr, http://www.gsgroup.co.za/faqcrimp.html I don't feel crimping in necessary with a driving band bullet, expecially if the bands are far enough apart to allow the brass to spring back inbetween the bands, as long as the case is chamfered a little inside and out. Might just want to shoot Mike at NF a quick e-mail and ask. J D, I agree. Muzzle blast is often overlooked. The slower the powder and/or the more unburnt powder exits the barrel, the more recoil you will feel. Muzzle pressure is important when it comes to recoil, and 4831 is a bit slow for this cartridge. Not going to comment on using a plug because I cannot say I have ever done it, except with shotguns, but I do understand it. Works in a 12 gauge! -Extremist "Pain is weakness leaving the body" -Instructor Victory in life is dying for what you were born to do. "I hope you live forever" -300 "Never judge an enemy by his words, he might turn out to be a better shot then a writer" http://www.gscustomusa.com | |||
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Less recoil is always a good thing. We all shoot better with less recoil. 465H&H | |||
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