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Congratulations on a really classy looking rifle Todd. It looks so "British" at first glance. I definitely prefer the CCH look and the extra bits of gold contrast. I wish I could have one like that in 450/400 or 450 NE! "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Thanks Naki. But you CAN have one just like it in your caliber. Takes about 10 months!! Cheers mate! | |||
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Thanks Naki. But you CAN have one just like it in your caliber. Takes about 10 months!! Cheers mate![/QUOTE] No, he's saving up for a for sale William Evens 450NE. | |||
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Beautiful Rifle Todd!!!! | |||
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Thanks Aaron. I hope you're able to get the 577 back!! If you do, let me know. I've still got some goodies for it you might want. Such as theses!  | |||
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Todd: What leather are you running there? I'm still on a perennial quest to find either a cartridge belt or holder I can live with for my 450. I tried that canvas culling belt and it sucked. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Jorge, those cartridge carriers were for my 577NE but all calibers are available, as are closed tips, or all contained on a culling belt. They are from Murray Custom Leather. Dick Murray. His home and place of business is about 10 miles from my home. Dick can make whatever you need, if he doesn't already have it in stock. He's not cheap, but neither is the quality of his work. I think these slides were $90 each IIRC but they will never wear out under normal circumstances. | |||
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Thanks, I know Dick and have bought a lot of things from him through the years. I'm using the closed end 416 holders I got from him for the 450, but I'd like something colser to what you have. i.e., open ended. BTW, I HATE any kind of plastic shit  USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Give him a ring. I'll bet he has them in stock for the 450NE. Agree with you. Open tips only!! The closed tips are a recipe for having cartridges fall out as you can't push them in far enough to hold after they stretch. But that's a different topic and road we've been down previously!  Yep, no plastic for me either!! As in Blaser!! | |||
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What should I ask for specifically or are they listed on his website? I appreciate it. Say, when are you going to wring out that gorgeous double? USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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If you like these slides, ask him for the open tipped, 6 round slides for the 450NE. I think they are on the website but you have to look for them a bit. I do know he will custom make them if not in stock. I'll take the rifle to the range this weekend, possibly tomorrow. Depends on when I get finished with work today, or tomorrow. It's killing me that I received the rifle, took some quick pictures, then had to leave. I didn't even get to "coon finger" the rifle for an hour!!  I'm anxious to get back home and wring it out. Luckily, I've got about 80 rounds loaded and ready to go!! | |||
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Sweet! I'll await your report! USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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VC does make a sweet rifle, eh? That gun of yours is mighty nice! And Ken is good as gold to boot! | |||
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yessir. sometimes I wonder if I should have ordered it in the French Gray or Coin finish, but after looking at yours and the Admirals' I'm glad I stuck with the plan and stayed with the CCH, although a bit more gold inlay (caliber stamp on the rib), "safe" etc would have added a nice touch USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Todd, I usually like 4 round capacity in a hunting rifle. Was VC out of the 4-barrel model? | |||
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We would be back into the need for a wheel set at that point!!  | |||
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Just got back home a couple of hours ago and took another look at the splinter fore-end. No doubt about it, it is closer to the way the VC pics of that shot gun look as my pictures are distorting it because of the angle. You're actually not seeing the profile with my pics. You're seeing all the way to the opposite side which is making it look more like their beavertail fore-end. I'll take some additional pictures tomorrow in the sunlight and pay particular attention to the angle. Stand by until then. | |||
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As promised, here are a couple of additional pictures of the splinter fore-end showing the profile a bit better. I tried to get the tops of the barrels completely level so as not to distort the thickness of the fore-end as occurred in the original pics. This looks pretty close to the pics Tendrams posted.   | |||
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MUCh trimmer when compared to mine:  Looks GREAT Todd.. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Yup....essentially the same. There might be the tiniest bit more taper in the rifle I posted but that is probably due to the smaller calibre and just natural variation in a handmade product. Now go get that sweet rifle off the sidewalk before someone swipes it.  | |||
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Just got back from the range with the new rifle. Again, I'm very pleased with it. For some reason, the way I hold and shoot a double rifle causes my POI to strike to the right. It happened on my Merkel 500NE, the 577NE, and now today with the new VC 500NE. I drifted the rear sight on the Merkel to get it to dead center but when Lionhunter acquired the rifle, it struck to the left for him. So yeah, definitely something about my technique. As a result, my first 6 shots struck the paper right about 3 inches. I drifted the rear sight to the left ever so slightly and this was the result of the next 4 rounds, offhand, 25 yards.  Unfortunately, I had a malfunction with my tripod that prevented me from raising the Chrony high enough to shoot thru it. So no velocity data just yet. But these were mid level loads and I have 5 grains more to go before reaching the book Max Load so I'm sure to be able to bring the spread in a bit. Looks like elevation is very close and each barrel shoots well individually. Recoil was very manageable and not at all an issue. This from a 10.25 lb 500NE. So no, I don't think you need 11 lbs to make a 500NE enjoyable as long as the stock fits well. | |||
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Just another grain or 2 and you'll be a caliber-width apart. Good vertical alignment as well. | |||
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I have the exact opposite problem Todd, I tend to shoot left. I think I read here that my problem is I tend to grip the rifle too hard with my right hand. How was felt recoil? USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Yeah Jon, it looks pretty good so far. I'm going to load tomorrow and get back out there, maybe Sunday and see if I can close the gap. I'm going to give Michael and Sam's new lighter weight bullets a go as well as soon as I can place an order. I'm intrigued by the 525gr and 2,350fps possibilities out of a 500NE. That's very close to the 505 Gibbs and 500 Jeffery if it's possible to get to that point. Jorge, Recoil was pleasant. No problem at all. I ran out of ammo long before running out of shoulder today. | |||
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Nice! What was your starting load for that Todd? | |||
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Beautiful gun, Todd. I'm wouldn't go so far as to choose it in preference to my Blaser R93, but definitely very nice. Your 25-yard groups show great promise. However, be careful, and make sure that you check out the other posts in this section of the forum. Some guy in Quebec has posted some very interesting and informative pointers on sighting in these guns, which you may find useful and informative. If I remember his name I'll post it here! | |||
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If it is shooting that low at 25yds you are probably a foot low at 50yds. | |||
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Actually probably dead on at 50 and maybe an inch or so high at 100  | |||
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and then dead on again at 100..... Mac | |||
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Mac, one shot from your beautiful Jumbo could cover all 4 of those holes :-) | |||
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Rick, to answer your question, that starting load yesterday was 100grs of IMR 4007 SSC with the 570gr CEBs. I loaded 102grs, 103grs, and 104grs today with 105 being listed as Max. However, I think that 105 load was absolute Max in my Merkel previously. I'm thinking if I can get descent velocity and close the gap to an inch or so with 104grs, I'll use that as the go to load. More after a range session tomorrow! | |||
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Michael and Sam are NOT in the bullet business!  Todd, your rifle is stunning. The CCH with the gold is simple and elegant. I agree with a previous post in that I appreciate the features you didn't incorporate as much as those you did. And it appears performance matches great looks in this case. I am sure the new, lighter CEBs will be deadly and accurate when you load those. Nice to see you are using your Texas method of sighting-in as well. Otherwise, when that Jumbo is at 12 yards, you might be shooting 3 feet high. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Give me the simple life; an AK-47, a good guard dog and a nymphomaniac who owns a liquor store. | |||
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Yeah, wrong phrase I used there. What I meant to say was I'm interested in Sam and Michael's loads using the new lighter weight bullets. Sam says they are working on pressure testing those lighter bullet loads this week. I'm hoping he'll test some with IMR 4007 SSC. | |||
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Nice shooting rifle you got yourself there Todd, couple more grains and they will be pretty close. Your group is almost identical to the group I got on my first outing with my Sabatti 470. It took only few grains more which brought both barrels together, to within an 1" CTC. Glad to hear that the recoil is not punishing, must be an excellent fit for the stock, who did measure you up? Best regards Malek Good shooting/hunting and God's best Best regards Malek Good Hunting/Shooting and God's best. | |||
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Very close to my taste... I hope it will serve you well! | |||
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Nice shooting Todd. Certainly "minute of elephant brain". All the right stuff ... Except ... Uhhhh ... Your brass is a little on the "small" side ... Looking forward to the many successful hunt reports  NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Naw Doc. I just have very large ... HANDS!  | |||
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You CAN'T, you're a fighter pilot with just a BIG watch! USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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