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Can a 3.25" gun shoot 3" shells? Is 3.25" brass readily available? (Hornady's making 3" correct?)


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Brad,

Can only help with part of your question. They are not interchangeable. Rim thickness is different, and there are other differences in the cartridge dimensions too.

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Do a search as this subject was covered here 3 or 4 weeks ago. In a nut shell, a 3" cartridge will not chamber in a 3 1/4" chamber as the case has it's shoulder well forward of the 3 1/4". I have fired (by mistake) 3 1/4" shells in a Jeffery 3" double rifle. Although the 3" uses the thick rim instead of the thin rim found on the 3 1/4" the firing pin was long enough fire the cartridges. I was able to keep 10 of them on a foam cup ay 35 yards.

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Can a 3.25" gun shoot 3" shells? Is 3.25" brass readily available? (Hornady's making 3" correct?)


Graaf is marketing Hornady 450/400 3 1/4" cases, However out of stock Frowner

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When Hornaday brings out their 450NE 3 1/4" brass (announced for this summer, iirc) you should be able to make 450/400NE 3 1/4" cases easily.

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But Hornady is supposedly bringing out the 3 1/4" cases too, at some point.


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We're fortunate to have Hornady bringing out the Nitro cases.

Now if he would just come out with the medium bores Big Grin
 
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We're fortunate to have Hornady bringing out the Nitro cases.

Now if he would just come out with the medium bores Big Grin


I hope at some point they will make some 375 H&H flanged brass! If brass & ammo were available for this round, I predict it would be chambered in many doubles shortly, and would be one of the best sellers yet! clap


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the 375 h&h flanged is made by norma
375 H&H flange by norma



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A couple of weeks ago, I asked Hornady when the .450/.400 3 1/4" cases would be available. They said they should be available by summer.
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Mac,
I understand that Hornady has 375 flanged on the drawing board.


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When Hornaday brings out their 450NE 3 1/4" brass (announced for this summer, iirc) you should be able to make 450/400NE 3 1/4" cases easily.

JPK


The 3" case is a good bit shorter than the 3 1/4", but the re-forming may lengthen the 3" case more than enough! The rim thickness may be a problem, however! The 3" version has a much thicker rim than the 3 1/4", so head space will have to be adjusted by thinning the rim from the front/muzzle side! Lot of trouble, but it will likely save some money in the long run.


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the 375 h&h flanged is made by norma
375 H&H flange by norma



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I understand that Hornady has 375 flanged on the drawing board.

Ray Atkinson


Thank you Peter, and Ray! I had an A&N double rifle, chambered for 375 H&H flanged yrs ago, and traded it because I couldn't get ammo or componant brass for it. Now I wish I still had that rifle! I have a double now that I may have JJ make bme a set of 375 H&H flanged barrels for! dancing clap thumb


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