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Todd How far are you from Bosque County? | |||
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I'm in Weatherford. Where is Bosque County. I'm not familiar right off the top of my memory. | |||
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You are about 75 miles due north of me--- lets go shoot something sometime | |||
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Anytime Cross. It would be my pleasure. | |||
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And sunscreen and IV rehydration in July.  ______________________ DRSS ______________________ Hunt Reports 2015 His & Her Leopards with Derek Littleton of Luwire Safaris - http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/2971090112 2015 Trophy Bull Elephant with CMS http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/1651069012 DIY Brooks Range Sheep Hunt 2013 - http://forums.accuratereloadin...901038191#9901038191 Zambia June/July 2012 with Andrew Baldry - Royal Kafue http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7971064771 Zambia Sept 2010- Muchinga Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4211096141 Namibia Sept 2010 - ARUB Safaris http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6781076141 | |||
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Very true Jim. That must have something to do with my preference for hunting Zim in October/November! | |||
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Not all of Alaska is in the deep freeze. Hit 40 here today, in between the rain/snow/sleet showers.  Kids even cranked on the .22 for a bit today. | |||
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40 degrees? Brrrrrr!!  | |||
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I guess I don't know anything any different...lived here all my life. Will admit the summers of 2011 & 1980 were a little extreme (118 F high and >30 over 110)...but 30 years apart ain't bad. I like to go to the mountains for 2 weeks at a time but must admit as soon as it breaches <60...I put on a jacket. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I took the Sabatti 450/400 and 10 rounds of ammo to the range today to finish sighting it in. Both groups were shot at 50 yds from a bench and are good enough for the girls I date.  Greg  | |||
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Looks pretty good!  | |||
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The first two shots with my Merkel 470NE was at a 3" red spot at 50 yds. Ammunition was 500gr Woodleigh Federal. The offhand shots hit one in the red circle and one to the immediate left of the first shot 1 1/2". I could regularly put 2 shots in the 3" dot at 50 yards. This with the factory post and square notch rear factory irons. The one elephant I shot with it was a heart shot and as it ran away I put one in each hip and missed both bones by about 2 ". It was a fine shooting double. For some reason everygun I shoot with iron sights be it pistol or rifle shoots to the left and I have to move the sights. Have never really understood why. I must cant the gun but I have asked many to watch and no one says I do. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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I use my doubles almost exclusively for elephant. Being that is the case, I sight in at 25 yards since I would seldom shoot one any further than that. I prefer my left and rights to land within 1" edge to edge at that distance. One on top of the other is even better! I must be an awfully noisy walker as it seems that they always turn to face me just as I shoulder my rifle. I get a lot of frontal shots because of it. On a frontal you must avoid the tusk sockets that are between and above the eye line. Your target therefore is about 4"X 4". Considering the difficulty of getting the correct angle right, I want as much accuracy as possible at that range. I also prefer the bullets to strike exactly at the top of the bead to maximize correct shot placement. Zimbabwe, One possibility of your tendency to shoot to the left is that you may be squeezing your whole shooting hand rather than just your trigger finger. That is most often the cause of shooting left in my teaching experience. Apparently you do this with very good consistency. Try concentrating on pulling the trigger straight back. It is much easier to do if you use the pad of your first finger joint rather than the crease. 465H&H | |||
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The shots will be pulled to the right or left when shooting offhand if the rifle is not well supported.This is more evident when one is using a scope and shooting out to 200yds.You can see how easily the sight picture is disturbed by pulling the trigger or not following through with a strong forearm support and having the shots drop on you.The sight picture is most affected when the rifle is held lightly and not supported.The rifle is not supported when the butt is not held firmly against the shoulder or you do not have a solid stance.I have noticed shots pulled most when I have many layers of clothes on and the butt is not really up against my shoulder,also when there is ice on the ground or when the ground is not level.This will tend to make the rifle behave as if it is shot from a ``floating`` position and therefore making it very sensitive to any forces acted on it just before the shot goes off.A heavy trigger pull does not help.Cold weather too because you lose all the strength in your arms and legs required provide support. | |||
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NONSENSE | |||
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465H&H thank you for the insight. Never even considered it,but certainly will now. I do use the pad and not the crease. I really don't shoot much any more and haven't hunted in several years. Arthritis and worn out knees makes it far less than fun. It's tough getting old, definitely not for younguns. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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Just got thru tweeking my 500 NE loads for my Heym double and here is the target. Shot at 25 yards with total of 8 shots and four different bullets. All bullets were CEB BBW#13s. Weights were 475 gr non con, 510 gr solid, 535 gr non con and a 570 gr solid. As you can see with a little work if a gun is properly regulated you can get different bullet weights to regulate and shoot same point of impact. Sam  | |||
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Sam, Looks like a very useful regulation with multiple bullet weights. Could you supply us with the velocities of those loads? 465H&H | |||
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I just regulated my inexpensive Baikal 221 in 45-70 with WW factory 300 gr HP at 50 yards. Here is the second-to-last and final regulation into the black.  | |||
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465 H&H, Thanks and the velocities are as follows. 475 gr at 2324 fps 510 gr at 2280 fps 535 gr at 2120 fps 570 gr at 2075 fps These were not the top loads but seemed to be the best matched for this gun. Sam | |||
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"As you can see with a little work if a gun is properly regulated you can get different bullet weights to regulate and shoot same point of impact." I agree and your target shows that really well. Previously 500N with many thousands of posts ! | |||
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That is sure some excellent sorting out and load development. | |||
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Thanks for the nice comments! Sam | |||
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Gentlemen, I've been out for a while. Thanks for the kind comments. I am mighty proud of that rifle. | |||
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