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We’re always listening to our customers, and a smaller, slimmer, shorter forend has been requested by many. Just taking a little more wood off was not a viable solution… to do it correctly, the entire forend had to be re-scaled to ensure that it was proportionally correct. This meant that a new forend latch had to be designed to allow for the proper taper (from the bottom of the forend up to the barrels). The radius was also changed in the latch to allow for a forend smaller in diameter and more rounded. Overall, there is a pretty substantial reduction. It is slimmer, more narrow, more rounded and about 1.5” shorter than the previous version. This new forend will be available on all 2016 rifles, and we will have examples at the Shows next month. Here it is shown before checkering.  | ||
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Stop it!!! Before I have to order another rifle  | |||
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Nice modification...I was worried that the existing forend would have been too wide on my future 577 :-) | |||
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Looking good. Mike | |||
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It's getting there. Looks nice. | |||
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Top Gear would call that a glimpse up a skirt. I'd probably agree. Nice stuff. | |||
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That's more like it. Dave | |||
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............. Every time I see a new Heym double rifle they look more and more like it was made by one of the top makers in the UK!...................................................................... Very nice Chris!....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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I like it very much. Now if you really listen to your customers, lose the nickel silver and replace it with colour case and a 26" barreled .500 would be just about irresistible. | |||
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Very nice! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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While an improvement, hence my statement that, "It's getting there", I'd still like to see something smaller in terms of a splinter. It's amazing to me that modern DR builders are so reluctant to build a "traditional" stocked rifle when there is a push to do so. My VC's "splinter" is an improvement over the horrid beavertails but it still left a lot to be desired. They have since built a more WR themed rifle which finally gets the proper look, IMO of course. I still find the WR style splinter to be the most pleasing. Granted, I felt quite different about them when I first became interested in double rifles. I'd like to see the the Heym with about 3 more inches knocked off that forearm and the sights set a bit further back to match. Something like this is most pleasing to my eye. As always, YMMV.  | |||
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I agree with Mr. Williams I can't figure out why its so hard to just copy the best DR stock designs from H&H, WR, Purdey and others. When will they finally understand 99% of DR buyers simply want the damn rifle to look like its supposed to and yes is supposed to look like a British double because I said so  When they finally figure it out..I'll buy two | |||
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Personally, I think the shape of the forend is as important to the lines of the rifle, but I would be interested to see if we can come up with the "perfect" forend length here. Measure your favorite from the end of the forend iron to the tip of the wood. How long is it? | |||
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I suspect Heym didn't randomly come up with a new forend length by throwing darts at the wall  So I'm going to take a guess that your new forend length and shape is exactly the same as some of the British makers or maker. As far as 3" shorter that Mr. Williams makes reference to, that would be too short for my tastes. I suspect WR splinter is not 3" shorter than the one you posted. I wasn't complaining about the rifle you posted just the general reluctance for makers like Heym to "get there". More importantly what is the price on the rifle pictured above?...I feel like its time for an upgrade | |||
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Manton 8" Lang 8" Boswell 7 3/4" Holland 8 1/2" Seems to definitely be a "sweet spot" among the makers. First three are lever releases, last is an Anson release which may explain the extra length (I did not measure to the tip of the plunger, just to the end of the wood). Of course, the Heym is a Deeley release. Just eyeballing the picture, assuming the rifle has 24" barrels, I would say that forearm is right at 8", maybe a tad shorter. Mike | |||
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You, sir, are wise beyond your years. | |||
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I never would have thought that after firing 4 repeated shots at an ele that the barrels would get so hot that I could barely touch them.I like the one on my Searcy.There is some wood there that I could grip if things get hot.The new one on the Heym looks good too. | |||
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Looks great. My OCD goes nuts though when I don't see the sights centered on the wood. Just me though...no reason for it except the OCD. | |||
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Anyone have a WR to measure. Adam? When I said 3" off, I was estimating where the front of the release is to make it look more like this:  Yep, the WR seems to be a bit shorter than the H&H, at least visually. An actual measurement may prove different but to my personal taste, the WR rifles look best. Chris, what is the exact measurement on the new forend? | |||
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The WR seems to have the sights set back on the barrels more than H&H typically has and I'm not sure if the forend is actually shorter or if its just thinner up front...but yes its definitly a different look. I prefer the slightly longer, thicker look that H&H or Purdey has. | |||
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Yep, could just be thinner. The taper is certainly more pronounced. And as I stated earlier, I didn't like the look at first but the more I'm around DRs, this is what my tastes have evolved to. | |||
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The rear sight is moved forward for faster sight acquisition, but that's a personal preference... just tell us how far you want the rear sight from the muzzle, and we'll accomodate. | |||
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I actually think Heym finally got it right this time. Not as thin as some, but elegant and effective. The wood on that pic is awesome as well. That's a DR I could live with. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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could we get some more angles and someone holding it? And price  | |||
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Very nice indeed. Since we're "wishing", figure out a way to get rid of the notched receiver and we're even closer... USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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It must difficult to achieve this short tapered foreend with the modern trend of small actions. On the Heym large action this should be easier. I do like the minimal rib for the rear sights on those two. Makes for quicker sighting down the barrels like a shotgun. As MJines noted, 18" or around 180mm to 220mm would be ideal. | |||
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I think the forearm stock and the whole stock on the WR is not english but German.It is a weird copy of the Obendorf Mauser.Asking Heym to make the stock on the double more english is a joke,IMO.They should make it more German-like an Obendorf Mauser stock with a small forearm but not too small-just right. | |||
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 Don't Oberndorf Mausers typically have a schnabel forend tip? | |||
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I don't think so.Even if they do it is the general shape that is copied. | |||
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George, The Westley Richards stocks are about as English as you can get! Certainly not Germanic style! I have a Westley Richards 500-450 double that looks exactly like the last two WR rifles posted by Todd with the exception that mine has two triggers like the first one he posted. ................................................................................. ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Although the titanium nitride receiver coating is Heym's standard offering. I ordered both of my rifles with blued receivers a standard option as I recall. My third rifle (just ordered)will have a cased colored receiver. Both my rifles wear 26" barrels , which as I recall is the standard , but they offer other lengths as standard options. I find the forend on my current rifles quite comfortable, thought the pending rifle will have the new splinter. I find the rear sight placement, with my aging eyes, to be about the right distance. | |||
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Maybe Chris can jump in here but does anyone know if 28" barrels are available. I really like the longer barrels of some of the older doubles I've seen. 26" is a nice length but I wouldn't want any shorter. 28" is about perfect for my taste. | |||
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Yes, we can do 28" barrels. | |||
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28" barrels on a 1905 Gibbs 450NE  | |||
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Thats a really nice looking double...28" just seems right to me.. Congrats on a great rifle and even better trophy! | |||
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My Westley Richards 500-450 has 28 inch barrels and it does swing nicely, but I personally prefer 24 inch barrels. The 28 inch barrels are a throw back to the black powder days when long barrels were needed for black powder. Most of the nitro doubles with 28 inch barrels were made just about the time the transition from black to nitro between 1898 and 1910. Then the move to 26 inch barrels till about 1950s/60s when most went to 24 inch unless ordered with longer barrels. It is simply a matter of choice today, but 28 inch barrels in a new order is not common with a few requesting 26inch. ..................................................................  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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Love that picture; AND the 28" barrels. I wanted 26" on my VC, but Ken recommended 24" so we settled on 25" USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Mine will be 27"....like the look, and the ballistics as well. | |||
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