Got the Krieghoff 500 this morning. I already had some ammo loaded (Hornady case, Federal 215 magnum primer, 94 grains of Reloder 15 and a 570 grain Woodleigh soft). Nebraska was killing Idaho so ran out to the range and shot ten rounds. Todd and Doc were right. It's not bad to shoot at all. By the way, It only weighs about 10.22 pounds. I wouldn't want it any heavier. Kudos to Krieghoff. Great gun at a great price. Can't wait to try some 570 grain CEB#13s.

You guys are going to laugh. Over the last few weeks I have been shooting some pretty big guns at the spools in front of our 25 meter berm. I am going to have to change places. There is a cut out in the berm about three feed wide...LOLOLOL

It makes me happy when others are happy

GREAT STUFF!!!

Who needs earth moving equipment when you have a 500NE!

Congratulations on a getting great double in a fantastice caliber

Have fun

Great story Dave. Congrats! Welcome to the .500 club!!

Now that you realize the 500 is not bad maybe it is time to start thinking about a 577!

Ken, I was already thinking about the 577 on the way home from the range. I can't stand it that Todd has a bigger gun than me!

A 577 NE D/R is really the most a guy could ever need in any situation.
I mean really, do we think there could be a situation that a 577 would
fail you; but a 600 NE or 700 NE could get the job done? I don't think
so. If you like one of the others, well go on ahead and put your money
down and get one. If you can afford to collect examples of each and want
to, then go to it. But I say again, once you go into the realm that begins
at the 577 NE, there's no need to go beyond. Enjoy your 500 NE till you
decide to move up again.

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Originally posted by Dave Bush:
Ken, I was already thinking about the 577 on the way home from the range. I can't stand it that Todd has a bigger gun than me!

Yea ... well ... buying that 577 may not solve that issue!

But back on topic, I'm glad you got the 500NE. I was confident you would like it after a session or two at the range. I still think the 500NE is the absolute best of all worlds where a double rifle is concerned. A significant step up in frontal area and energy over the 450 to 470 class without the corresponding step up in recoil and weight of the 577NE.

In all seriousness, I think you'll find the recoil of a 577NE to be quite manageable as well, although it will be heavier and just larger overall in terms of dimensions. But they really are a joy to shoot as well, even though I'm new to the caliber. Dave, I was as concerned about the 577 as you were about the 500. Doc and Sam reassured me there was nothing to be concerned about and they were right about that one also. Furthermore, Sam convinced me to take the weights out of the buttstock which reduced the overall weight 1.5 lbs. I can't tell the difference in recoil between the 12.5 lbs version and the 14 lbs version. So Sam was right about that one also.

Good for you Dave and welcome to the 500 club!! You're good to go now so let's talk elephant and put that rifle to use! I can set you up with a good outfitter!

quote:

Originally posted by D R Hunter:
A 577 NE D/R is really the most a guy could ever need in any situation.
I mean really, do we think there could be a situation that a 577 would
fail you; but a 600 NE or 700 NE could get the job done? I don't think
so. If you like one of the others, well go on ahead and put your money
down and get one. If you can afford to collect examples of each and want
to, then go to it. But I say again, once you go into the realm that begins
at the 577 NE, there's no need to go beyond. Enjoy your 500 NE till you
decide to move up again.

NEED has no place in discussions of double rifles

And it could be argued that a 500 is the most a guy could ever need in any situation - but certainly not by me

On safari, ya gotta shoot what you like and like what you shoot.

quote:

Originally posted by D R Hunter:
A 577 NE D/R is really the most a guy could ever need in any situation.
I mean really, do we think there could be a situation that a 577 would
fail you; but a 600 NE or 700 NE could get the job done? I don't think
so. If you like one of the others, well go on ahead and put your money
down and get one. If you can afford to collect examples of each and want
to, then go to it. But I say again, once you go into the realm that begins
at the 577 NE, there's no need to go beyond. Enjoy your 500 NE till you
decide to move up again.

The 600 bullet is 150gr heavier than the 577. Customers that have used both the 577 and 600 report back that the 600 is a step up from the 577 just like the 500 is a step up from the 470/450 class of bullets. I have taken several 577's back in trade on 600's. Do they really need the extra margin of a 600, only the user can answer.

quote:

Originally posted by CCMDoc:

quote:

Originally posted by D R Hunter:
A 577 NE D/R is really the most a guy could ever need in any situation.
I mean really, do we think there could be a situation that a 577 would
fail you; but a 600 NE or 700 NE could get the job done? I don't think
so. If you like one of the others, well go on ahead and put your money
down and get one. If you can afford to collect examples of each and want
to, then go to it. But I say again, once you go into the realm that begins
at the 577 NE, there's no need to go beyond. Enjoy your 500 NE till you
decide to move up again.

NEED has no place in discussions of double rifles

And it could be argued that a 500 is the most a guy could ever need in any situation - but certainly not by me

On safari, ya gotta shoot what you like and like what you shoot.

Doc, he sounds like my kid! Maybe an intervention IS needed.

NEED has nothing to do with any of this!

Ken, when is VC going to make a 700NE?

quote:

Ken, when is VC going to make a 700NE?

I have already talked to the factory about a 700, but they did not quote a price. It will not be inexpensive......you want to be the first to order one?

Uh ... No. I'm happy to be gun poor with my little 500 and 577. Thanks!!

But I'll bet Doc would be game! Maybe Aaron!!

Dave,
Glad to hear it. I ordered one of the Searcy field grades he just put on AR in .500. So I guess I will see in 6 or 8 months.
Rick

quote:

Originally posted by Kebco:

quote:

Originally posted by D R Hunter:
A 577 NE D/R is really the most a guy could ever need in any situation.
I mean really, do we think there could be a situation that a 577 would
fail you; but a 600 NE or 700 NE could get the job done? I don't think
so. If you like one of the others, well go on ahead and put your money
down and get one. If you can afford to collect examples of each and want
to, then go to it. But I say again, once you go into the realm that begins
at the 577 NE, there's no need to go beyond. Enjoy your 500 NE till you
decide to move up again.

The 600 bullet is 150gr heavier than the 577. Customers that have used both the 577 and 600 report back that the 600 is a step up from the 577 just like the 500 is a step up from the 470/450 class of bullets. I have taken several 577's back in trade on 600's. Do they really need the extra margin of a 600, only the user can answer.

Ken, between the two, I would prefer the 577. I am not sure you need to step up from a 577 (or from a 500 for that matter) but the 577 has more than enough penetration and can be built somewhat lighter.

I agree with Doc, need doesn't have much to do with it

Dave good shooting with the 500.

Mike