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A better analogy concerning the bolt rifle would be if the bolt rifle's safety automatically applied each time you reloaded it. It doesn't. Once you open the ball game, you can shoot and reload all you want without having to deal with the safety, until the ball game is over.


Two completely different operating systems.

Apples to oranges, oranges to apples.

It is more of what one is use too.

I would see more problems if you had doubles with auto safeties and ones with out.

All my doubles have them. I haven't been caught with the safety on when it should have been off.

That because I trained my self take them off while shouldering each and every time.

Just as I take the safety off when using my other style of actions. Or cocking the hammer on my hammer guns.

It is more of a matter of how you have trained.
 
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I don't want an auto safety and I don't want ejectors, I want extractors..I don't feel the need to justify either..


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A better analogy concerning the bolt rifle would be if the bolt rifle's safety automatically applied each time you reloaded it. It doesn't. Once you open the ball game, you can shoot and reload all you want without having to deal with the safety, until the ball game is over.


Two completely different operating systems.

No kidding?

Apples to oranges, oranges to apples.

It's an analogy man. Used to show how the two different systems work and that if it isn't needed on one, it isn't needed on the other.

It is more of what one is use too.

Agreed. And if you are shooting clay targets, birds, deer, etc., I say no big deal. Elephants up close in thick cover, personally, I don't want an auto safety. YMMV

I would see more problems if you had doubles with auto safeties and ones with out.

All my doubles have them. I haven't been caught with the safety on when it should have been off.

All it takes is to have one incident up close and personal with a pissed off group of cow elephants in the thick jess!

That because I trained my self take them off while shouldering each and every time.

Just as I take the safety off when using my other style of actions. Or cocking the hammer on my hammer guns.

It is more of a matter of how you have trained.

Yep. And for me, I train to take the safety off when the shooting starts and put the safety back on when it's over. No need to be switching in on and off back and forth while shooting is still required. But again, YMMV.
 
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I have auto safeties on all my double shotguns, and years of experience the moving it off safety is a subconscious movement that happens as I mount the gun. Many times I shot, broken, reloaded and fired again in less time than it takes to write or even read this. When shooting clays, I call pull with safety still on and disengage as I mount. For me clays are practice for shooting in the field.

My double rifle is non auto, and I subconsciously still push forward to fire.

Like all things practice makes perfect.
 
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When you know you need to do it and train to do it you will do it. Otherwise you might have the safety on when it should be off anyway. I am curious as to why the old guns have it and do any new ones? Had to be a philosophical reason by the makers?


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