Hi all.

Looking to purchase my first double shortly and trying to narrow down my choices. l have a short list of 3 rifles.
Wondering how much force is need to manually push the cocking lever forward on K-gun big 5 and the Blaser S2. Just Concerned when l get older that l may not be able to have the strength to push forward to cock?? lf l get any arthritis or crook hands, may not be able to use either the Blaser or Krieghoff. Not that l might go chasing anything dangerous if l am in that condition.
Unfortunately where l live here, l will not be able to try either of these rifles before deciding.

I have a Krieg and it is not hard to cock but with arthritis it might be depending on how much you can push. If that is a factor you might want a regular safety equipped rifle. The blasers require cocking each time you open it so that compounds the issue for you.

My rifle requires between 21 and 22 pounds of force to push the kick spanner forward, as measured with a digital scale. While requiring some effort, it is not that difficult to operate.

I had some reservations when I bought mine,one trip to Africa,& it's one of my favorite guns & caliber now,the kickspanner was absolutely easy to get used to!!

Thanks very much for the info and your experiences with this style of safety. Maybe l am just over thinking things. When spending this sort of $$, l just want to try and make the most informed decision l can. As l get older, thing will get harder to do and dont want to make a mistake choosing now that will affect me latter in life.
My list of rifles l am trying to narrow down is the K-gun big 5, Blaser S2 safari, and Merkel 140AE all in 500NE

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Originally posted by Jack H:
Thanks very much for the info and your experiences with this style of safety. Maybe l am just over thinking things. When spending this sort of $$, l just want to try and make the most informed decision l can. As l get older, thing will get harder to do and dont want to make a mistake choosing now that will affect me latter in life.
My list of rifles l am trying to narrow down is the K-gun big 5, Blaser S2 safari, and Merkel 140AE all in 500NE

I recommend you find one and handle it for yourself.

Cheers
Jim

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Originally posted by Jack H:
Hi all.

Looking to purchase my first double shortly and trying to narrow down my choices. l have a short list of 3 rifles.
Wondering how much force is need to manually push the cocking lever forward on K-gun big 5 and the Blaser S2. Just Concerned when l get older that l may not be able to have the strength to push forward to cock?? lf l get any arthritis or crook hands, may not be able to use either the Blaser or Krieghoff. Not that l might go chasing anything dangerous if l am in that condition.
Unfortunately where l live here, l will not be able to try either of these rifles before deciding.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
I have a Krieg and it is not hard to cock but with arthritis it might be depending on how much you can push. If that is a factor you might want a regular safety equipped rifle. The blasers require cocking each time you open it so that compounds the issue for you.

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Originally posted by Mike70560:
My rifle requires between 21 and 22 pounds of force to push the kick spanner forward, as measured with a digital scale. While requiring some effort, it is not that difficult to operate.

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Originally posted by Bill73:
I had some reservations when I bought mine,one trip to Africa,& it's one of my favorite guns & caliber now,the kickspanner was absolutely easy to get used to!!

IMO with normal hands the cocking lever will not be a problem, but with arthritic hands it could be a life threatening problem. In regard to the Blaser S-2 , don’t make the mistake that the Blaser, and the K-gun are the same system, they are definitely not the same. The K-gun once cocked it will re-cock it’s self when opened after firing, or remain cocked if opened without firing it. This is not the case with the Blaser S-2, if opened for any reason the rifle de-cocks it’s self, and must be manually re-cocked before it can be fired. The K-gun is a good system, and the Blaser S-2 is not, PERIOD!


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I could see how someone would worry about this with the K-gun. If you are simply holding and admiring the gun, the kickspanner can seem a bit heavy to push forward. However, if you hold the gun like in a hunting situation low and at the ready, the kickspanner moves forward rather easily as you raise the gun and prepare for a shot.

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Originally posted by JoeDemocko:
I could see how someone would worry about this with the K-gun. If you are simply holding and admiring the gun, the kickspanner can seem a bit heavy to push forward. However, if you hold the gun like in a hunting situation low and at the ready, the kickspanner moves forward rather easily as you raise the gun and prepare for a shot.

Well said,the kickspanner became second nature in the field for me,directionally it is the same as the traditional safeties & much safer to carry with rounds in the chamber,I wish Krieghoff made a 450 class gun,I would have one in my safe for sure,love my 500/416.

Thanks for passing on your experiences with these rifles. lt is bloody hard trying to decide what rifle will be best for yourself. Hoping to be able to make a choice on which rifle to get soon

Please list the rifle makers that you CAN get rifles from.
Can you get Verney-Carron there for example?
http://www.verney-carron.fr/index.html#
Or the wonderful American made:
http://bradshawgunandrifle.com..._Double_Rifle_1B.php

Hi D R Hunter.
We can get most rifles here. The cost does vary though. lm looking at a Merkel, Krieghoff, waiting on a price from V-C. And have been talking to Bailey Bradshaw too, thinking about one of his doubles. Got a price on a Chapuis and it was almost double the cost of a Merkel here. Heym was out of my price range to. But most of them do not have a left handed in stock, only the Merkel. l can import a Bradshaw for about the same cost as some of the ones listed.

Jack H.,

No doubt then, if I were you I would select BRADSHAW. The double rifle that will
NEVER come Off-Face, WILL reliably eject spent rounds, CAN be built with fixed or
removable barrel sets, CAN be built lefty or righty, and so on. Call BRADSHAW and
I expect you'll be happy that you did.