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Looking for advice from those with a 450 #2 that have used Re 15 with 480-500 gr, bullets and 350's. My rifle is regulated for the 80 gr Cordite load. Using the 1.19 formula comes out to 95 gr of R15, I'll start a bit lower, but wanted some real world feedback from those who have used it in this caliber. I have used R15 for years in my 450/400 and hope it will work well in my new/old rifle. Thanks! Lee. DRSS(We Band of Bubba's Div.) N.R.A (Life) T.S.R.A (Life) D.S.C. | ||
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Should work just fine. I've been shooting and hunting with my Lang 450 no2 for 20+ years. I prefer 4831 and 105 grains but your RL will work fine. I will be selling six pounds of RL 15 at the gun show this weekend as 4831 has worked so well for me since the 1990s. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Thanks Cal, I was kind of hoping to get some feedback on results , issues etc. Just not much info out there. DRSS(We Band of Bubba's Div.) N.R.A (Life) T.S.R.A (Life) D.S.C. | |||
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You need to contact Tony Black,or NE 450 No2,he shot a 450#2 for years,we don't see him post much anymore ,but he is the guru,shared many a happy campfire with him . DRSS | |||
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found this in search. New rifle? Here's what I found:I shoot a Champlin Famars in 450 # 2. If I remember correctly it was started in 1989 and completed in 1991. Articulated trigger and ejectors Gold inlaid rear sight and just dot the i in the express sight. Which is 120 degrees wide angle. I have shot Hornady solids, softs, woodleighs, barne's TSX, northfork cup points. All bullets went from 450 to 480 to 500gr Using RL-15 shooting 86,88, 89 grains of power and 5 grains of filler. The harmonics in my gun are unique I shoot all the loads with the above charges and bullets and no tweeking required. Shot every thing from groundhogs to elephants with it. Even a black mamba. | |||
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from tony black post:I too have a British double in 450 No2. The 450 No2 case is so large that no matter what powder you use you must use filler. I have good loads with IMR 3031, IMR4831 and RL 15. My favorite powder with the 450, 480 and 500 gr bullets is RL 15. I use a foam plug cut out with a 50 BMG case. Dacron poly will also work. Which ever filler you use it must be compressed. I use 89 grains of RL 15 with the 450 North Forks, and 88 grains with 480 Woodleighs, Soft and Solid, and 500gr Swift A Frames, 500gr Hornady Soft and 500gr Hornady old style Solids. With 350 gr Hornady RN I use 81 gr of IMR 3031, with filler of course. | |||
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Don't forget you can use Norma 203B as well. I suggest a foam plug to hold the powder against the primer. I can send you a few. Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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I am pretty sure that both Tony and Mikes guns were 75 gr. regulated guns, mine is an 80 gr. I finally got to take it to the range yesterday and it showed promise with a 95gr. R-15, 480 Woodleigh, but it really liked that load with a 350 gr hard cast gas check bullet. When I have more time for the range, I will try some more loads. Thanks for the replies! Lee. DRSS(We Band of Bubba's Div.) N.R.A (Life) T.S.R.A (Life) D.S.C. | |||
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I agree all is well, especially with Cals post.. I will add one thing for what its worth, I found recoil was less with RL-15 and 4350 than 4831 in all doubles that I shot, how much probably depends on the shooter, neither bothered me but senced it, but I shot a good deal and hunted a lot back in the day and recoil is personal. It might be a factor with some..My guns were more accurate with 4831 and I used the old 4350 DATA 4831 powder of WW2..still do.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I tend to get better results with RE15 in 500/450 and 375 Flanged Mag as I did also with my 500 3 1/4” than H4350. Using a Kynoch wad above .400. Happy shooting. DRSS | |||
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That 1.19x multiplier with RL15 yields me 2230fps average from my 470 with 25.5” barrels. In other words, it’s too much of a good thing. Don’t even think of trying that multiplier with the 577 and 600. You will be in the upper 40,000s or lower 50,000s psi. Try a 1.1x multiplier and work up to regulation in your rifle. Shoot the largest caliber you can shoot well, and practice, practice, practice. | |||
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I have a 450#2 made by WR&Co back in 1905. I use North Fork 500 gr Softs over 92.0 gr of RL15 and get approximately 2,120 FPS. I also load Swift A Frames 500 gr over 93.5 gr of RL15 and am just shy of the 2,100 FPS mark. To take up extra case volume I use a 3/4” light foam plug that I cut using a 450#2 case body that is cut in half and has sharpened edges. No pressure signs in my rifle. Hope this helps. | |||
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