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What is your first choice if buying a new gun safe? Thank you. | ||
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Look at Liberty safes. I am very happy with mine. Buy the biggest one you can afford. Its surprizing how much stuff you will put in them besides guns. | |||
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Do you prefer the electric locking system or the old fashioned mechanical tumbler? | |||
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Get the tumbler. You will remember the combination until that point in your mental life when you shouldn't be handling guns anyway. | |||
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Ha Ha ha ha....that's about right. | |||
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I saw these in Dallas at the safari show and was impressed. To me the design makes it much easier to get at rifles easily. http://www.pendletonsafes.com/ Mike | |||
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Yes, I saw those and was also impressed. But, I don't think they have a fire rating which is an important aspect to me. | |||
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Liberty safes get my vote.  André DRSS --------- 3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact. 5 shots are a group. | |||
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1. Fire rating is the important thing to remember. 2. Advertised gun capacity should be reduced by 1/3 to 1/2. 3. Interior lighting is a nice option. 4. I like the electronic lock, I finally replaced the batteries on mine last weekend, lasted me 7 years. 5. That said I like my Fort Knox. There are two types of people in the world: those that get things done and those who make excuses. There are no others. | |||
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Check out Sturdy Safes. www.sturdysafes.com They have good fire protection. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I have the Liberty Franklin series. Very nice safe. With the tumbler dial. | |||
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I have a Cannon I like it and the warranty is very impressive. Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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I have had several different safes over the years. For a great fire safe: http://www.securityproducts1.com/ I started to write great "basic" safes but it appears: They have "prettied up " the line quite a bit since I purchased my 1/4 steel safes with extra fire-lining- Mine were basic gray or brown with the protected key double locks. DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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I have two safes made by "ZANOTTI" manufactured in Waterloo, Iowa. They are constructed of six seperate pices. Can be taken apart and move by two people. Each safe has two seperate locking processes and will hold 56 "guns" each. | |||
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My Liberty stood tall when 6" of ice took my shop building down. Glad to have had it.   ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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Bingo, plus they seem very expensive. Nice idea though and very efficient. I bought a Champion Trophy series TY-23 gun safe with 60 minutes at 1350 degrees for around a $1000. I need another one but my source stopped selling this sized version and it's the only one that'll fit through the doors of my back rooms. Looks like I have to get a bigger safe and pick a different location. And make sure your safe is bolted down! | |||
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About 15 years ago the local newspaper was selling its big old safe, a monster two-door Mosler. I bought it for (I think) about $200 and paid the moving company $400 to move it from the loading dock to my office in an outbuilding. Heavy bugger! It has an insurance fire rating and no local punk is ever going to either get into it or cart it off. I think these old big safes are probably better than the gun safes I've seen at guns shows. The bigger and heavier the old safe, the cheaper! Big drawback is that they are too heavy for residential flooring. Oxon | |||
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I have one of the old two door safes as well. It is a PIG! That being said I had to have some work done on the tumbler recently. The safe is probably 60-70 years old. The lock smith said it is basically a fire safe and not a great security safe. It can be easily drilled as compared to newer models.
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Those older double key Security Products safes were very strong. Not many safes made today are as thick as those were. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Strong and a double hernia to move  DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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That is why I like the Sturdy Safes, they are made of thicker steel than most. And they have very good fire protection. Their website has a lot of good info on it... DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Safes keep honest people honest. However, they can be broken into. One way is a circular saw with abrasive blades and cutting the top of the safe off. (I'm not giving the bad guys ideas, they already know the tricks) Fire is a strange thing. Fire ratings almost seem to be a suggestion instead of an absolute fact. That being said, I bought a Liberty Safe and no one has tried cutting it up or burning it down. I still have all my junk but I'm not so naive as to believe a professional burglar couldn't get in. My safe has a good fire rating but close examination shows the safe door is starting to tilt and needs to be adjusted. My guess is that if I had a fire, everything would be cooked, regardless of the warranty. I like the idea of a push-button combination and me being the only person with the combination. No fear of a child or intruder finding a key and getting easy access. | |||
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Liberty for me. Liberty makes almost everyone's private label/brand safe these days and that says a lot about their security and quality. | |||
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I'll never buy another Cannon. They do not honor their warranty. Anybody interested in a boat anchor, I have a broken Cannon they can pick up. Replaced it with an American Security sold to me by the locksmith who spent 4 hours in my home to get the Cannon open. Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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One thing I've never liked about many of the gun safes out there are the ones where the door won't open farther than 90 degrees. If it won't open more than that, it makes it very difficult to get to things stored on the hinge side of the safe. I'd like to know from all of you out there how far does the door open on your safe and what brand is it. I'm especially interested in those that open farther than 90 degrees. Thanks. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= DRSS; NRA; Illinois State Rifle Association; Missouri Sport Shooting Association “One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain.” – Thomas Sowell, “The Vision Of The Anointed: Self-Congratulation As A Basis For Social Policy” . | |||
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I have 2 old Browning safes, not fire proof at all, but they both open to about 180 deg. And remember, however big you get it it won't be big enough. C.G.B. | |||
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I have two. First was a browning, second was american security. I like em both. Okie Keep yer powder dry and yer knife sharp. | |||
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As a former LEO, I can tell you this. Rgardless how thick the walls of your safe are, it won't stop some of the modern portable hand-held saws. They don't need to open the door, just cut a large hole in the side or top. And the really mean ones won't even need a saw. They'll stick a gun up your nose (or that of one of your loved ones) to encourage YOU to open the safe. Gun safes are good things, to keep kids and "smash & grab" artists or sneak thieves apart from your guns, but you don't need a very expensive or thick walled one to do that. | |||
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I also have two, a 56 long gun capacity one which I bought in 1981, and a much less heavy 16-gun one I bought earlier this year. Now that I have sold about 60 of my guns, the rest all fit in those two safes (barely). Both my safe doors open about 180°, and both now have biometric locks on them . I got tired of trying to wheel that dial around and count the rotations required back and forth and back and forth, so as I always have my fingers with me (so far), I just let the print of one of them open the safes for me. BTW Sergeant & Greenleaf make high quality biometric locks which will replace the dial lock of just about every gun safe ever made commercially. Takes way less than an hour of a locksmith's or your time to do the change over. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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A safe that I can move where I want it myself when I want to would be my next one. Such safes are made by Zanotti, Snap Safe, Champion and perhaps others.  Get the 'power' or optic that your eye likes instead of what someone else says. When we go to the doctor they ask us what lens we like! Do that with your optics. | |||
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I agree, the warranty is impressive - PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T HONOR THEIR WARRANTY. If anybody wants my canon safe they can have it. This safe wouldn't open and had to be drilled by a locksmith, WHILE HE WAS ON THE PHONE WITH CANNON. After this drilling, which completely ruined the safe, CANON SAYS IT'S NOT COVERED BY THE WARRANTY. I'LL NEVER BUY CANNON AND RECOMMEND YOU DON'T EITHER. Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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+1 on Sturdy Safe. Big on strength and fire, not on looks. Von | |||
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They are a premium, but I like Fort Knox. Just bought my second one at SCI | |||
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Liberty Fatboy. Holds a bunch. I will sell you mine if you are interested - but you have to arrange transport. | |||
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I have a Liberty Washington series and it has worked great for the last 18 years. It's always so quiet when the goldfish die.(Bror Blixen) DRSS Merkel 470 NE | |||
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Yes, the warranty is impressive until you try to use it and the company tells you the safe is broke and it's your fault - then refuses to honor their warranty. I have one that the locksmith drilled open and Cannon refused to honor their warranty. Anybody wants it, can have it. I'm currently using it to anchor a houseboat in Elephant Butte Lake. Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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I saw an Academy sale ad for Cannon Gun Safes this morning, got to thinking, "Well, maybe I need another safe." I remembered this thread and went on internet to research Cannons. In short, the internet if FULL of very unhappy Cannon customer stories mostly revolving around the damn electronic lock not working, their guns being locked in, and receiving ZERO help from Cannon. Thanks for the heads up, Pancho, and I damn sure won't be buying a Cannon safe with an electronic lock, which I've always thought was a poor idea anyway. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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When we experienced the catastrophic flood in 2010, I called my gun shop where I bought the Oxbow safe. He told me it was made by Cannon and to call them. They asked for the serial number and said a new safe (same model) would be sent in 8 weeks at no cost to me. Shipping? Free. 8 days later, FedEx dropped off my new safe. It took 4 of us to bring it inside. I've never had a problem with either safe other than the flood. The flood safe? They said keep it, it's yours. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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FYI - ALL of the "gun safes" on the market today are not safes at all.. The insurance industry classifies them as "Residential Security Cabinets".. and are covered differently that a real SAFE. I had an old turn of the century safe made by a company called Herring, Hall, and Marvin. They are easily recognized as they were the only old time safe company that used ball bearing hinges. It had an office desk style interior when I got it, but that was easily removed. It also had a "day door"... an interior door that opened with a key, so you could leave the safe open during business hours. the day door was a full 1/4" thick plate steel with 4 locking lugs that rival the current production gun safes. It weighed near a ton and I had to hire a rigger to move it every time I moved.. the last time I moved, I had outgrown it and the cost to move it was in excess of the cost of a new gun safe. In Retrospect, I should have kept the HHM safe and just added another... I've been looking for another, and if I find one, I'll bite the bullet and grab it.. The only modern "gun safe" that comes close to the old time safes is Zanotti Armor, but last I heard, there is a 3 year wait if you want one.. NRA Benefactor. Life is tough... It's even tougher when you're stupid... John Wayne | |||
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