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"By the late 1980s, there were a handful of hunting-specific camouflage patterns, found on a limited number of useful garments. Now, with more than 100 different specific patterns — some generalized, some region-specific, coloring everything from wool coats to waders to scent-lock jumpsuits — the American hunter has a lot more thinking to do about his or her appearance in the field." Read the complete article by SCOTT BOWEN - Published: December 22, 2007. Let us hear some views on what is regarded as the best camouflage patterns, and if there is some hard evidence to back it up. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12...ner=rssyahoo&emc=rss Warrior | ||
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I don't think there is any one best pattern. It all depends on where you are hunting and time of year you are hunting. I've used old French lizard pattern in the Piney Woods w/success for early season squirrel and deer. It wouldn't work in other parts of the state because it is too green. I've used some old not sure what, but looked like British but not quite, in the South Texas Brush for doves. The lizard would have been too much dark green. Whatever it was, it was just right. I've got some Mossy Oak I use that seems to be pretty good too. Not sure which one, I think it's the "break up". Robert If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy. Thomas Jefferson, 1802 | |||
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FOr the areas I hunt which are Colorado, and Missouri Crye Multicam is about unbeatable for me. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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ASAT is and always has been THE best and most versatile camo in existence. Especially in the 3-D leaf pattern. Here are some google images Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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I like New Mossy Oak Break-up, seems to be good choice where I hunt in treestands most of the time and is readily available in all types of hunting garments. Would like to try some other patterns with patches of white mixed in for snowy settings. BTW, like good old red plaid too. | |||
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Depends on your area. Here in PA, Realtree Hardwoods Gray is tops. The new AP/APG stuff is not too far behind. Mossy Oak's line has way too much black and dark tones for around here. In Mexico, Realtree Max 1 just friggin' disappears. Founder....the OTPG | |||
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Better to have a variety and match the terrain. Rick | |||
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Very true. Spring gobbler season in PA when things are just starting to green up, I'll sometimes wear a brown leaf pattern pants or bibs and a limb & green leaf pattern jacket or shirt. Makes for just about right when sitting against a tree. Founder....the OTPG | |||
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My $20 from Cheaper than Dirt Alpenflage hooded field jacket w/face net and suspender pants. Anything that breaks up the human form will work. http://www.airforceacu.com/jacketsf8.htm | |||
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I really like the King's shadow camo. Specifically the Desert Shadow and Mountain Shadow patterns. | |||
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I have been useing the original Predatore since 1992. ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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The best camo has to be Obama....I just can't see him in the white house. "When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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I've used a bunch...Realtree, Mossy Oak, Woodland, Tree Bark but the best I have found for the areas I hunt, bar none is called "Be Still" 30+ years experience tells me that perfection hit at .264. Others are adequate but anything before or after is wishful thinking. | |||
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There is an outfit in Utah called King's Camo that has several dynamite patterns. I think they are much better than most camo I've seen. Unfortunately, I would never buy another other of their products without personally inspecting it first, as the quality control on the two items I got was awful. My son's parka has the handwarmer pockets sewn so badly that even a 12-year-old could not insert his hand. The stitching on my poly flannel camo shirt was such that I had to redo much of it by hand, since it was uneconomic to send back from Japan. The sleeve buttons were on the wrong side on the arm (right where you mount a rifle) making me think the arms were sewn to the shirt upside down. Throughout, seams were sewn in a very sloppy way. That said, I believe King's products are carried in Cabela's shops, so it may be possible to inspect before buying. Norman Solberg International lawyer back in the US after 25 years and, having met a few of the bad guys and governments here and around the world, now focusing on private trusts that protect wealth from them. NRA Life Member for 50 years, NRA Endowment Member from 2014, NRA Patron from 2016. | |||
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In the deer and elk woods of northern AZ (units 5, 6, 7, 8, and 10), I prefer many-times-washed (and therefore very faded) old-time Woodland Camo. I do make very certain to use both gauze gloves and face netting of the same pattern and faded appearance. On numerous occasions while sitting under a tree I have had game animals and/or hunters walk right by me within 10-15 feet without seeing me at all. | |||
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I prefer "light" color schemes. It depends where you are hunting, but at a distance dark camo patterns look dark against light colored terrain. When moving with this pattern, a hunter sticks out like a sore thumb. You can't distinguish those fancy, expensive patterns from one another after about 100 yards. At this point it's all about color shade and intensity. All the different patterns are marketing ploys to sell a product to a human. Do you think a deer can see the twigs and leaves on your clothes? Ha! Look at the color of deer, elk, coyotes and other game animals. They are the color they are for a reason; concealment. You'd be amazed at how well a simple tan Khaki and olive Khaki conceal you when hunting. I have been using them for coyote hunting and would have no problem doing the same for big game. My Western camo consists of Prarie Ghost, Mossy Oak Brush, and Outfitter Gray. I like the Outfitter pattern the best. | |||
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I wear less and less camo all the time. I find that regular earth tones (greens, browns, tans) do just as well if you watch your movement. I still have a lot of camo from back when I was a true believer, but as it wears out I'm just replacing those garments with brown Wranglers or Carhartts similarly colored long sleeve shirts. _____________________ A successful man is one who earns more money than his wife can spend. | |||
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I usually wear tan pants and green jacket rather than camo. Most important is to KEEP STILL ! | |||
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No camo is worth the money if you move while in the conscious field of vision of your game. Since its tough not to move at all let alone when taking the shot, American Marketing has sold us a bill of goods. If you are hunting people it is different of course. | |||
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I tell ya the bestest woodland camo I've ever seen for upstate NY was Pop's pair of tiger stripes. | |||
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The absolute best camo for where i hunt 9Arkansas is the German flecktarn. Flecktarn http://www.hassayampasurplus.com/ Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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since they're all color blind, who cares? You could dress like Liberace or PeeWee Herman, and as long as you sit still... Their pasty white faces and hands are the issue. These city boys are as bad as HS cheerleaders about having sixty outfits to choose from. | |||
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Rhodesian camo has always been a favorite of mine. Perhaps because I am interested in the history as well but a very good pattern all the same. although not really "camo", SADF Nutria brown is great stuff too. It just gets better with age and dirt. | |||
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I agree re Human movement, but if you sway side to side if spotted (ie like a bush in the wind), then it can confuse animals. . | |||
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Another vote here for ASAT 3D. It also gets my vote for most vertatile I've gone from wearing nothing but underwear under it to having full winter gear and everything in between. It's light weight, breaths, keeps out bugs can't ask for much more. | |||
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Main reason we have so, many camo patterns is MARKETING. Research has proven that human urine is just as attractive to deer, as their own, but guys still spend a fortune on bottled stuff. We wander around in the mistaken belief, just cause it looks good to us, Game must see it in the same light. Not so. Naturally black on white is going to stand out like a sore thumb, but the most important thing is to break up your outline, so you don't look like what you really are. Hunters 50 years ago did fine with plain drab colored clothing. No reason we can't do as well, unless you have more money than brains. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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Just to see if it matters, I quit wearing any camo and go with dark colors. I do not hunt turkeys or bow hunt - so my results are for rifle hunters. I use camo for duck hunting only. I see no difference in using camo or not when rifle hunting. If I work the wind, I get very close and the animals are none the wiser. Also, why would anyone wear camo in a tree stand? Deer do not look up. | |||
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They wax poetic like crazy about it don't they? | |||
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Just got to jump in on this one. When I am in my office, a deer stand or box blind, I usually wear nice starched Wranglers with a starched shirt, color does not matter. When I am hunting out of my High Rack Truck, (portable office or office on wheels) I wear the same thing, Wranglers and starched shirt. (“hot biscuits, starched shirts and whores is what he fancies”, a line from a movie) Now then when business picks up and I am on the ground I wear Bushland Camo, Blends in very well with the Mesquite, Pear, Blackbrush, Sineso and everything that has thorns on it. The main things are hand and face, which need to be covered as well. Kings World Desert works really well for the low country also. When on eye level just remember to move very slowly and don’t jump when you realize you are standing on a rattle-bug. "We Don't Rent Pigs !" | |||
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If you choose to wear camo it doesn't get any better. I also like the swedish geometric type camo. It to works extremely well. | |||
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I like African Sniper, simply because no one else has it. Also the new Open / Hide Western Slope. It is just pure sagebrush. “The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy before you, to see his cities reduced to ashes, hearing the old ones wail, to see those who love him shrouded in tears, and to gather into your bosom his wives and daughters, while riding his gelding.” Genghis Khan | |||
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Most modern camo is too dark. You can be seen hundreds of yards away, especially if your moving/walking. Spyder Oak (Texas) used to produce "Diamondback" camo. My friends said they would have never seen me in open prairie had I not been wearing an orange hat. Mature bucks would look up and stare at me in my tree stand (climbing) for a brief moment then drop their heads and pay for it. No other camo (and I have tried many patterns) would fool those mature whitetails like Diamondback. I only wish I had bought a lot of it. It does resemble the scale pattern of a rattle snake and anyone who has been around them often knows what I mean as to disappearing. I still rank it #1 as it fooled Elk, Mule and Whitetail deer, Pronghorn and many African antelope. This is an older photo and the camo pattern is darker than real life Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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In my experience, they might, more than you think. Several times in the dense woods of Alabama, I've caught them looking up (without any noise or movement to trigger it), and they can spot hunters in a tree. This seems to be with more experienced deer, who may well have been educated to tree stands by people hunting the same stands over and over, and moving, making noise, etc. Other friends have commented on this as well. Particularly when deer are moving up a hill in the direction of a treestand which is further up the hill. One fellow I know has taken some special fabric paint and put in "sky-colored" areas where the camo pattern was too dark and unbroken. Works great in a tree stand to help make him blend in with the "Airborne" background which is different from when you are on the ground without light sky behind you. | |||
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Deer are not colorblind. They just don't see colors as we do and apparently don't see reds/oranges as distinct colors.
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First off Terry Wieland is a massive dumb ass, so the idea that they went to him is bullshit to begin with. 2nd the camoflage patterns developed by the guy that has a PHD in Camo who worked with Gore and Kuiu to create those patterns, as well as the military to create the digital patterns are exceptional. In Afghanistan and Iraq the first couple trips we had 3 color desert, which was ok. The last couple trips we had the varient of MARPAT desert for the Navy called AOR 2. Very kick ass stuff. Most commercial paterns are designed to catch hunters, not wildlife. | |||
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We live in a predominantly tan area here, desert, and Ponderosa Pine is generally in the woods. I have been looking hard at the Kryptek Highlander pattern for this year. | |||
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Just about anything with shades consistent with the area will work but stay away from patterns with big patches or blobs of black. Black is not as common in real life as you would think. Small bits of black are okay but very, very dark grey, green, or brown are better to have in the pattern than black. Jool's picture above is a good example. You can see how much the black in the rifle stands out while the dark shades in the uniform tend to blend in. . | |||
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