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19 November 2017, 21:15
Steve Ahrenberg
Why is it that...
Most of the regulars here know that several AR members and myself just returned from Brazil. We did an exotic fishing trip.

Here's my question. Most of us are outdoorsmen. We have other interests besides hunting. I think most of us even fish. So, why is there almost ZERO action in the fishing forum?


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19 November 2017, 21:40
MacD37
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Most of the regulars here know that several AR members and myself just returned from Brazil. We did an exotic fishing trip.

Here's my question. Most of us are outdoorsmen. We have other interests besides hunting. I think most of us even fish. So, why is there almost ZERO action in the fishing forum?


I would say that most real fishermen are only occasional hunters,and spend more time fishing and working on their boats than playing on a computer.
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19 November 2017, 22:43
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Most of the regulars here know that several AR members and myself just returned from Brazil. We did an exotic fishing trip.

Here's my question. Most of us are outdoorsmen. We have other interests besides hunting. I think most of us even fish. So, why is there almost ZERO action in the fishing forum?



Because you didn’t mount every fish you caught? sofa


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19 November 2017, 23:01
Beretta682E
Cause guns are way cooler than fishing tackle.

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19 November 2017, 23:04
faisal
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Most of the regulars here know that several AR members and myself just returned from Brazil. We did an exotic fishing trip.

Here's my question. Most of us are outdoorsmen. We have other interests besides hunting. I think most of us even fish. So, why is there almost ZERO action in the fishing forum?

Steve,
I don't mean to be facetious but maybe if you posted your fishing exploits in the relevant forum it would get more interest!
Regards
Faisal
19 November 2017, 23:32
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by faisal:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Most of the regulars here know that several AR members and myself just returned from Brazil. We did an exotic fishing trip.

Here's my question. Most of us are outdoorsmen. We have other interests besides hunting. I think most of us even fish. So, why is there almost ZERO action in the fishing forum?

Steve,
I don't mean to be facetious but maybe if you posted your fishing exploits in the relevant forum it would get more interest!
Regards
Faisal


Hi Faisal,

I think he’s referencing the fact there are threads on the trip in the AR fishing forum but little interest. You going to DSC?

Cheers
J&J

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19 November 2017, 23:42
cal pappas
I equate dropping in your line in the water and waiting for the fish to strike akin to the hunter who waits in a tree stand looking over a bait pile. Just no excitement, no skill as compared to stalking and tracking and getting set up for the shot. Since one really can't do that while fishing there is not that much exciting news to write about.

Writing about the fight the fish has in it when hooked is like writing about the wounded deer taking off at a run. Posting a photo of the fish is fine, but the story before the photo is rather mundane.

Just my opinion, but it's why I live in the middle of fishing heaven here in Alaska and stopped fishing in 1987 after a couple of large king salmon and a lake trout with a couple of pike thrown in. Didn't do anything for me.

Go easy on me, fellas. I'm rather sensitive.
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20 November 2017, 00:16
Charlie64
.

Is there a fishing section on AR ?????

.


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20 November 2017, 00:23
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
I equate dropping in your line in the water and waiting for the fish to strike akin to the hunter who waits in a tree stand looking over a bait pile. Just no excitement, no skill as compared to stalking and tracking and getting set up for the shot. Since one really can't do that while fishing there is not that much exciting news to write about.

Writing about the fight the fish has in it when hooked is like writing about the wounded deer taking off at a run. Posting a photo of the fish is fine, but the story before the photo is rather mundane.

Just my opinion, but it's why I live in the middle of fishing heaven here in Alaska and stopped fishing in 1987 after a couple of large king salmon and a lake trout with a couple of pike thrown in. Didn't do anything for me.

Go easy on me, fellas. I'm rather sensitive.
Cal


You just aren’t doing it right Cal. Big Grin


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20 November 2017, 00:24
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by Charlie64:
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Is there a fishing section on AR ?????

.


Way down the bottom Charlie


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20 November 2017, 00:45
Steve Ahrenberg
quote:
Originally posted by faisal:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
Most of the regulars here know that several AR members and myself just returned from Brazil. We did an exotic fishing trip.

Here's my question. Most of us are outdoorsmen. We have other interests besides hunting. I think most of us even fish. So, why is there almost ZERO action in the fishing forum?

Steve,
I don't mean to be facetious but maybe if you posted your fishing exploits in the relevant forum it would get more interest!
Regards
Faisal


Faisal,

No problem. I obviously give zero shits about people reading my reports, since I don't do reports. I did one on this trip 4-5 years ago, but none since.

My curiosity just wonders why in a forum fun of outdoor enthusiast, it gets no participation.

Hell, Charlie didn't even know there was one. The Knife forum gets more looks than the fishing forum.


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20 November 2017, 00:48
Steve Ahrenberg
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:
I equate dropping in your line in the water and waiting for the fish to strike akin to the hunter who waits in a tree stand looking over a bait pile. Just no excitement, no skill as compared to stalking and tracking and getting set up for the shot. Since one really can't do that while fishing there is not that much exciting news to write about.

Writing about the fight the fish has in it when hooked is like writing about the wounded deer taking off at a run. Posting a photo of the fish is fine, but the story before the photo is rather mundane.

Just my opinion, but it's why I live in the middle of fishing heaven here in Alaska and stopped fishing in 1987 after a couple of large king salmon and a lake trout with a couple of pike thrown in. Didn't do anything for me.

Go easy on me, fellas. I'm rather sensitive.
Cal


Cal,

I see it somewhat different. How difficult is it to walk around behind a PH until he points and says..."Shoot that one"

These South American rivers are fished without a real "guide" the Indians (except the one J&J had) speak virtually no english, offer no help, they simply go where you point or name a species. There is far more skill required than hunting Africa.


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20 November 2017, 00:53
Skyline
quote:
Originally posted by Charlie64:
.

Is there a fishing section on AR ?????

.


Exactly what I was thinking. Smiler My wife and I love fishing. I will have to check it out.

Guys who think "fishing" is strictly tossing some bait into the water and waiting for something to bite, really haven't got a clue. Sure some angling is like that, but stalking fish in the shallows and presenting the fly or lure precisely is a challenge.....with the added benefit of the fact that you can let it go and keep fishing.

No catch and release with hunting. Wink

Fishing the shallows for lakers and northern pike with a fly rod and streamers is great action, as are snook, bonefish and tarpon.......there is a lot of action to be had.


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20 November 2017, 02:00
Bwana1
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?
20 November 2017, 02:23
JGRaider
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?


He obviously wants to make sure everyone knows he and several buddies just went on an international fishing trip. It's called ego.
20 November 2017, 02:25
Steve Ahrenberg
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?


He obviously wants to make sure everyone knows he and several buddies just went on an international fishing trip. It's called ego.


Which is the same reason I slather hunting hero shots all over the hunting forums.

oh, wait..... Wink


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20 November 2017, 02:34
Steve Ahrenberg
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?


He obviously wants to make sure everyone knows he and several buddies just went on an international fishing trip. It's called ego.


Oh, and BTW, theres a fishing report on the trip, I didn't put it there.

My goal on these Amazon trips has always been to share the experience and help others by giving them the information, its taken me 8-9 years to learn. Special tackle and techniques have been developed. Some, the outfitter has actually adopted as their new standard.

Those that have been can and likely will attest to that.

But, haters gotta hate.


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20 November 2017, 02:39
AnotherAZWriter
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?


He obviously wants to make sure everyone knows he and several buddies just went on an international fishing trip. It's called ego.


JG:

Funny that you see it as ego, because I certainly don't. I wish that fishing thread had more action as well, and view it as helpful.

I remember on different thread you said you played pro baseball, IIRC. I certainly didn't think, "Wow, big ego..." I thought, "Wow, how cool is that?"


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20 November 2017, 02:42
AnotherAZWriter
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:

Just my opinion, but it's why I live in the middle of fishing heaven here in Alaska and stopped fishing in 1987 after a couple of large king salmon and a lake trout with a couple of pike thrown in. Didn't do anything for me.


Cal


You should be arrested. I can't believe anyone could live in AK and not fish (or obviously hunt), especially for kings.


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20 November 2017, 03:11
lavaca
I think Mac's right. Back when I was really into fishing, I spent more time working on my boat than I did fishing. Now, if I want to go fishing, I hire a captain with a boat.
20 November 2017, 03:16
Beretta682E
quote:
Originally posted by lavaca:
I think Mac's right. Back when I was really into fishing, I spent more time working on my boat than I did fishing. Now, if I want to go fishing, I hire a captain with a boat.


You got smart Wink

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20 November 2017, 04:03
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
quote:
Originally posted by cal pappas:

Just my opinion, but it's why I live in the middle of fishing heaven here in Alaska and stopped fishing in 1987 after a couple of large king salmon and a lake trout with a couple of pike thrown in. Didn't do anything for me.


Cal


You should be arrested. I can't believe anyone could live in AK and not fish (or obviously hunt), especially for kings.


Take easy on Cal. He’s old and can barely walk.


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20 November 2017, 04:32
jdollar
quote:
Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?


He obviously wants to make sure everyone knows he and several buddies just went on an international fishing trip. It's called ego.


JG:

Funny that you see it as ego, because I certainly don't. I wish that fishing thread had more action as well, and view it as helpful.

I remember on different thread you said you played pro baseball, IIRC. I certainly didn't think, "Wow, big ego..." I thought, "Wow, how cool is that?"

I did( the ego thing). And if you look at the website name, it isn’t African Hunting. It has a lot of special interest subforums, one of which is fishing. Use it or ignore it....


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20 November 2017, 04:34
Fjold
Because many of us belong to fishing websites that specialize in the type or location of the fishing that we do.

There are many other sites that are better for specific information including other gun sites. This site is a wealth of knowledge about hunting in Africa and big bore rifles and I use the gunsmithing, taxidermy and the international forums also but for specialized information on stuff like gun laws, match shooting, etc. I use other gun sites.


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20 November 2017, 04:54
Tim Ferrall
There are 3 good reasons why Cal does not fish:
1) He isn't interested in filling his
house with trophy mounts.
2) He doesn't cook much.
3) He isn't interested in having a woman
around who does.
Easy enough on you, my friend?
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20 November 2017, 05:10
Frostbit
Whoa!! Did you say Cal isn’t interested in women? sofaa


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20 November 2017, 05:27
JGRaider
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?


He obviously wants to make sure everyone knows he and several buddies just went on an international fishing trip. It's called ego.


Which is the same reason I slather hunting hero shots all over the hunting forums.

oh, wait..... Wink


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20 November 2017, 05:41
Steve Ahrenberg
Did you perhaps educate yourself to see why there are fishing galleries? Free trip??

Just put me on ignore if I really aggravate you.


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20 November 2017, 06:06
AnotherAZWriter
quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
quote:
Originally posted by AnotherAZWriter:
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?


He obviously wants to make sure everyone knows he and several buddies just went on an international fishing trip. It's called ego.


JG:

Funny that you see it as ego, because I certainly don't. I wish that fishing thread had more action as well, and view it as helpful.

I remember on different thread you said you played pro baseball, IIRC. I certainly didn't think, "Wow, big ego..." I thought, "Wow, how cool is that?"

I did( the ego thing). And if you look at the website name, it isn’t African Hunting. It has a lot of special interest subforums, one of which is fishing. Use it or ignore it....


It isn't the first time you have complained about big egos on AR, JG. It definitely bothers you when people post about certain trips; with your logic Saeed is a raving egomaniac. Me? I just appreciate what he does.


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20 November 2017, 06:17
JGRaider
Nothing on an internet site "bothers" me. I just call it as I see it. As to the site owner.....I have no respect for anti-American, foreign, silver spooners.
20 November 2017, 07:29
jdollar
Then do us a favor and LEAVE! After all, the site owner is obviously a non American and a Muslim to boot. Your racist red neck is showing again....


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20 November 2017, 10:39
JBoutfishn
Before this turns into a real pissing match, let me throw in my own situation. I am 75+, been to Africa twice, taken a few buff along with some nice plains game. For the cost of another 10 day trip to Africa, I bought a Nitro Bass which is used maybe 150 days a year. (Mac, had the boat 8 years, only work has been annual oil change in lower unit, spark plugs and impeller twice. Wink)

Still hunt waterfowl, deer, and varmints. Antelope when I can draw a tag, still trying for elk, while I am running out of time.

In addition to the 150 days a year on the lake chasing that 10lb bass, I am still looking for that 15lb steelhead on the Trinity.

Point being, some of you guys think it is an either or situation. I think you wasting to much time arguing about it on AR. Big Grin Get out and do it all.

Almost forgot, Bwana 1 has it right, anyone here have any tips on using swim baits vs glide baits?


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20 November 2017, 14:40
Tim Ferrall
Frostbit, I did NOT say that Cal is not interested in women. I said that he was not interested in having one around to cook fish for him. Unless, of course, things have changed since the last time I spoke with him. Also, it was meant in jest, as I consider Cal a friend.
20 November 2017, 21:16
Frostbit
quote:
Originally posted by Tim Ferrall:
Frostbit, I did NOT say that Cal is not interested in women. I said that he was not interested in having one around to cook fish for him. Unless, of course, things have changed since the last time I spoke with him. Also, it was meant in jest, as I consider Cal a friend.


My reply was in jest as well.


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21 November 2017, 08:28
Beretta682E
Ar is a rifle with a specialized emphasis on big bore and African hunting website, everything else is secondary.

There is also a definite clickish nature to ar - we don't represent all of sci or dsc.

A lot of fishing trips are sold at sci and dsc. Acute angling number one sales show is sci.

We don't represent all of sci or dsc or hunting or gun owners for that matter.

Fishing is specialized too fly fishermen don't normally mix with offshore fishermen.

Offshore trolling guys don't seem to have out with specialized jigging and popping guys.

One size does not fit all. I know ar members who fly fish, offshore fish etc - they have more in common in African hunting than fishing.

My fishing is similar to hunting - I want to go to remote locations and fish. I have been to Brazil, panama and going to papua for gt and dog tooth tuna, Costa Rica for tarpon, panama for tuna in 2018.

I also won't pay full price to charter for a day alone - so I normally seek group trips. Mothership with smaller boats going out.

Long run offshore trips don't interest me - the ocean looks the same. I want to fish around interesting stuff be it coral atolls, oil rigs or river mouths.

I also like catching fish and have no issues fishing a stocked Lake in Thailand. I won't go hunt a small high fenced farm but I have no issues fishing a man made Lake.

I also don't fish local - I live on a lake with nice bass and I have never fished it. I don't surf fish or take local offshore charters. I like going places to fish.

I will fish Africa in the near future.

Mike
22 November 2017, 05:15
SquirrelNut
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
quote:
Originally posted by Bwana1:
Plenty of fishing forums on the net. Interested in fishing, why go to an African hunting forum?


He obviously wants to make sure everyone knows he and several buddies just went on an international fishing trip. It's called ego.


You obviously want to make sure everyone is aware you're an asshole. That's called being a asshole. I can think of no other reason for a post like yours on this thread when silence would have been the wiser choice. Maybe it is you who has the priapic ego.

quote:
Nothing on an internet site "bothers" me. I just call it as I see it. As to the site owner.....I have no respect for anti-American, foreign, silver spooners.


Then why are you posting on his site? Saeed and I haven't always agreed on things but he's not a bad guy, he's always been kind to me in spite of our differences.
22 November 2017, 21:09
jdollar
+1 tu2


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22 November 2017, 22:40
JGRaider
Keep kissing that ass boys.
29 November 2017, 04:10
TWL
Is / are there fishing forum(s) with quality and content similar to what we have here on AR? Would someone post links, please?


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29 November 2017, 06:06
jdollar
quote:
Originally posted by JGRaider:
Keep kissing that ass boys.

Your continual complaints about the site owner while continuing to use the site only makes you a huge hypocrite. Put your money where your big mouth is and leave.


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