A vote from Germany the 6x62 Freres availabe also in rimmed version 6x62R Freres. Expensive but a dream for reloaders.

Burkhard

Your all wrong and should be reported! The king of the hill is the 6x284. Lapua Brass 53.5grs of H4350 behind Hornady 87gr V-Max produces 3,600+. Now thats a fast mover.

Well, I shoot a couple of 243's, a 6-284, 6 PPC, ^mm Rem, 6mm AI, and a 240 Gibbs, and if I didn't want to dick around with wildcats (but I do) I would go with the 6mm Rem hans down. - dan

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Originally posted by dan belisle:
Well, I shoot a couple of 243's, a 6-284, 6 PPC, ^mm Rem, 6mm AI, and a 240 Gibbs, and if I didn't want to dick around with wildcats (but I do) I would go with the 6mm Rem hans down. - dan

Agreed! There may be some better ones made in Germany, but in the U.S., I'd go with the 6mm REM. This despite the fact that my only 6mm at present is a 6mm/.284.....

I have and shoot both the 6 BR and 6 PPC. For small furry varmints I will grab my 6 BR. For small groups at the range off the bench, the 6 PPC.

Mike

6mm-222

6x284

6mm - 284

The 6MM Rem is the better cartridge but if you don't reload you better get a 243. The history of the 6mm Rem reads like a bad history lesson. Remington did everything wrong in the introduction. At the time they had the resources of DuPont. I never had a 243 until recently on I got a SAKO L-57. I have 3 6mm Rems including a Ruger #1.
It's just a better cartridge-just as the 30.06 is to the 308.

243

If you reload its 6x284 all the way baby!

I have a Blaser in a 6.5X68 works well.

OCTAVE you mentioned a 6.5 caliber.That means you have violated the "Prime Derective" The police will be notified.Why? The subject is 6MM only.

Guilty put the cuffs on me I will not make any truoble.

Where is "Salengrad"? If its not in Alameda county. The you have eluded justice again. Just remember crime doesn't pay

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Originally posted by xtrema44:
I ordered a Remington 700 vls in 6mm.I'll send the action abd barrel to a smith friend.I think I'll have him true & blueprint the action and then put sako conversion on the bolt. I'll then put a remington pss stock on it and see how well it shoots. If it doesn't group well then I'll have a barrel put on.

I can see blueprinting the action but why on earth would you want to change the extractor? If it works don't fix it.

pUTTING A sAKO EXTRACTOR ON IT WILL NOT ONLY VOID THE WARENTY BUT THERE ARE SOME REPORTS OUT THERE THAT SAY IT WEAKENS THE ACTION ALSO.

I was told from a smith that was the way to go. I have not done it yet and probably will not. Now were working on a friends 6mm ran a bore scope down it and suprise. We found some stuff that looks like alligator skin about inch from the throat. So I put my rifle in the safe and I'll work some more on it when we figure out his issue.

Hey 44 its called "Heat Check"What you see in your friends rifle barrel.

Yep thats what our smith friend said. So he is going to rebarrel it and try agin. I'M just going to sit back and watch. He understands now why you should take a few rifles when you go to wyoming for a week dog hunting.

What brand Barrel is he installing?

The last time I talked to him it was going to be lilja or krieger. I've herd good things about the lilja but I don't know which is best.

One is cut rifles (Krieger) the other is button rifled(Lija) When I shoot mine out I'm going to put on a Broughton. They are suppose to be a faster Barrel. I well known gun smith by the name of Chris Matthews recomends them highly.Just search out the name of the Barrel maker he has a web page.I've heard he beats the barrels you mentioned by a mile.

Availability and powder burn efficiency leads me to the .243 Winchester.

Thanks Ironworker. I'll pass that on and see if he has made up his mind. I'll let ya know the out come.

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Originally posted by Jim White:

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Originally posted by xtrema44:
I ordered a Remington 700 vls in 6mm.I'll send the action abd barrel to a smith friend.I think I'll have him true & blueprint the action and then put sako conversion on the bolt. I'll then put a remington pss stock on it and see how well it shoots. If it doesn't group well then I'll have a barrel put on.

I can see blueprinting the action but why on earth would you want to change the extractor? If it works don't fix it.

If you get a Sako, they come with the good extractors already installed. Saves on gunsmithing costs.

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Originally posted by buckshot:
Excluding marketing, Winchester's successes were due to the sexy little featherweights those cartridges were chambered in, let alone the pre-64 model 70. Anyone remember the 722 Remington? About as handsome as a fence post, wasn't it?

And you have to wonder if it was it's superiority over the 264WinMag or the new Model700 Rifle it was chambered in that made the 7mmRemMag a success...

And even that was tempered by the fact that two years later Winchester switched to a cheaper to produce push feed rifle....

We must also remember that When winchester brought out their 225Win it was in the new design rifle and they had dropped the commercially sucessful 220Swift to make room for the 225Win...

They kinda shot themselves in the foot in both cases...

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Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
I am not much of a 25/06 kind of guy.....

however, I do have to admit, it escapes me why someone would build a 6/06 when the 25/06 will do the same unless you want to shoot the 55 to 70 grain bullets with it..... then I see a lot of fast throat wear in your barrel's future.....

seafire

Amen!


As fast as a 25-06 can eat a barrel (BTDT) I don't want to think about a 6mm-06 240WBY 240Gibbs, etc...
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another one for the 6MM remington

The knocks on this thread of the .243 put me in mind of the book reviewers and literary critics who loudly proclaim that Stephen King is a hack writer.

Though I'm a huge 6x284 fan, for a standard round a 6mm Rem. in a long action is about as good as you can get.

6mm Rem on a LONG Action.

or 6mm Rem AI. if you need a little more velocity

I built one in 243 but the reamer didn't have any leade on it.Now if I could just find one to borrow for a few days.

Thanks guy's. Sounds like there are some 6mm rem and 6x284 fans out there... I saw dies for a 6mm ultramag the other day..I'm thinking barrel burner... Does anyone have one...

One more vote for the 6mm Rem for overall performance.

I have tried them all:
6mm Rem
244 Rem
6mm AI
6mm-284
243

I have been shooting 6mm cartridges for more than 40 years and all of them do the job.

IMO if you want to hunt deer size game with any 6mm cartridge - load up some Nosler Partitions (85 or 100) or Swift Sciroccos.

In this bore size, the 6mm Rem is, to me, by far the most versatile and user-friendly of the lot.

For sheer fun, though, the litle 6mm-.223 (aka 6x45) gets my vote. I've had them in XP and Contender pistols and in rifle format as well, and it's a joy to work with. It's deadly on coyotes and will even work for smaller deer -- and I've used it for that purpose a time or two.

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.243 WSSM!