I forget some of the names of them, but I know they have a few. Anyone have any information about any .14 cals?

You might try Tod Kindler's web site . He is a great resource for the "sub calibers"

I think that Saeed is on Tod's "staff" .

The web site is http://www.smallcaliber.com

Hope this helps

muck

14 flea
14 carbine
14 walker hornet
14-221 walker
are the main ones, they also list a 14-222 but man there is no need for that

I hornet is what I would go for, if you would like more info drop me an e-mail and I can answer some of your questions, if I can not I can tell you who can

JD

There have been 16 chamberings for the 14 over the years. Now, the 14 Walker Hornet and the 14/221 are the most popular. Mine is chambered in an original Win. Hiwall, and is a 218 necked down with a 40 degree shoulder.

Don't let the size fool you, with the velocity and twist, they are drop dead killers out to 150 yards.

Check out my page at http://www.cyberport.net/russ/bullet.htm for sources for everything you need to get into a 14.

russ

And don't forget the 14 Echelberger Dart. Based onthe 25ACP case.

The Flea is based on a 32case
The carbine on the 30 Carbine case
The Hornet on the Hornet and
the 221 on the 221 FireBall

But Russ really knows a lot about all of em. Or at least I'm convinced he does. Now if I could just get him to send me some of his loading info for the Darts, I'd be tickled.

Thanx, I was just curious.

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"Hey, I wanna turn in Billy, man. He sold me the s**t that wouldn't get a fly high!"

[But Russ really knows a lot about all of em. Or at least I'm convinced he does.]

Hey, I've got somebody fooled! I just make the bullets and gather information......

[Now if I could just get him to send me some of his loading info for the Darts, I'd be tickled.]

14 Dart/Win brass
10 gr bullet, 3.3gr AA#9 ~2750fps
12.7 gr bullet, 3.0gr H110 ~2500fps
13gr bullet, 2.9gr H110 ~2350fps

Thanks Russ

Interesting that it uses the "slower" powders. At least as compared to the Olin 231 that I use in my necked down 25ACP cased Cricket. Thanks for the input though. The "Slowest" I'd "successfully" tryed in mine was Blue Dot. 4227 only made it clear of the muzzle 40% of the time, and even then I could watch the bullet all the way to the ground...50 feet away.

What do you have on the 17 Dart? If anything.

Ain't wildcatting fun?

(What do you have on the 17 Dart? If anything.)

Don't do 17's any more, although I think the dart would be a little "underbore" for the 17. Good luck

I think I've posted this before; it's a photo of a 14/22LR (Eichelberger), 14 Flea, and 14 Hornet -- flanked by a 22LR and 223 for comparison.

I had 100 rounds of the 14/22LR, but traded all but 3 at gun shows. He also did a 22 Mag necked down to 14 -- if anyone has one of those they would be willing to part with, please let me know!