I see that Barnes is re-introducing the Varminator cup and core bullet. Yahoo is all I can say. I have a stockpile but I was getting thin on 40 grainers for the hornet and 223. These shoot better in both my Remington 700 and TC Contender than anything else I've shot. That includes Nosler, Sierra, and Hornady. I love em. I don't know how they will be priced yet.