I have had great experiences w .277 140 grain Accubond, .358 225 Grain Accubond, and .284 160 grain Accubonds.

I am collecting bullets to try out int .264 WM.

Currently, I have corelockts for barrel break in, 140 grain Northforks, and 140 grain Aframes heading in.


However, how does the Swift Scieocco compare to the Accubond. Looking to try a 130 grain bullet in one of these options as well.

Has anyone used these specific bullets? If so, what are your observations?

I know the Sirocco uses a pure copper jacket.

O know get both pick the one that shoots the best. Let us set that aside for a minute and discuss the pros and cons of these two bullets generally (and specifically the 130 .264s if anyone has used them).

I have a box of the Swift Scirocco II 130 gr. to test out of the 6.5mm before I order up a small pile of the bullets. Just waiting on Spring to arrive.

I've been told they can be finicky to settle in with some barrels; I'll just have to see for myself.

The 140 NAB is easy-peasy to work up a hunting load in the 6.5mm, and I've used them on old, dry elk cows without any drama, but I've never tried the NAB-LR bullet.

Yes, I will not be using the NALR.

1) It is really too long for the 1:9 twist.
2) It does not have a good reputation for performance/bonded weight retention inside 400 yards.
3) It is very thin jacketed.


It was 60 degrees here yesterday. So, I can catch good weather to play. It will be 90 in the late spring.

In tests I found the SCII to retain more weight, penetrate further and form a larger reliable mushroom than the AB. This was testing 180gr .30's fired from a MV of around 2900fps at media placed at 25m or so.

That is the only calibre and weight in which I did a side by side test of the AB and SCII. I have also found the SCII to be a bit difficult to tune at times - 150gr 7mm, 180gr .30 and 210gr .338, but one cannot really generalise about this type of thing. Due to the jacket material the SCII can be a little more "sticky" than some others and seemed to top out a bit sooner.

I am a big North Fork fanboy and was the South African importer. I have also just recently started working with a 264 Win Mag (1960's Sako). I shot some 129gr Hdy IL with 7828 just to get a sense as to whether the rifle may shoot and was very pleasantly surprised. I've loaded up some 120gr North Forks (still US made) to try with VV N570. My rifle is still of the very short throated design (despite a cavernous mag box!) so I lose a lot of case capacity with the heavier bullets.

Please let us know what propellant you choose and share your results.

Testing bullets in media is pointless!

Nothing works like meat and bone and blood!

Even then you will get results that sometimes defy explanations!

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Yes, I will not be using the NALR.

1) It is really too long for the 1:9 twist.
2) It does not have a good reputation for performance/bonded weight retention inside 400 yards.
3) It is very thin jacketed.

LHeym500,

Is this from personal experience?

Reason for asking is, I have been using the 175gr ABLR in my 7mm Rem for about 4 years now. Velocity is just over 2900.

I am used to getting pass throughs on medium sized plainsgame. Furthest distance was around 380yards and closest was under 30yards. The largest animal I took was a Mtn Nyala (600-650LBS) at 120yards. The recovered bullet was perfectly mushroomed and held together.

Just curious as I am now a bit worried since reading the other thread about the ABLR as well. Leaving shortly on a safari and it is my preferred setup.

LHeym, not the bullet you’re asking about, but I’ve pretty much settled on the Barnes 127 grain LRX in my .264.

Over the life of my original pre-64 factory barrel, I mostly shot 140 grain bullets, usually CoreLokt’s and they performed very well. But then I was going on a Coues Deer hunt and tried some 120 grain Nosler Solid Base and shot a 0.117” 3-shot group so I used that a bit but went back to 140’s, just because.

Five years ago, I had to re-barrel so decided to have my rifle builder do a complete overhaul. He pillar bedded my existing Brown Precision stock, fitted a 26” Krieger match grade barrel with 1-8” twist, barrel is a heavy sporter in I think #4 contour but could be wrong. Timney trigger set to 2 3/4 lbs, topped with a Leupold VX5HD in 3-15x with CDS turret & Firedot reticle, set in Talley rings.

Time to work up a new load and he suggested we try the 127 LRX as some of his customers were reporting great results with that bullet. He started with a load he’d been using for some other customers, 65 grains of RL26, 215 Federal primer, 3,220 fps. First group measured 0.335” so we’ve never tried a different load. It’s basically a varmint rifle, but in .264 win mag.

With this new load we’ve shot a desert ram, several Roosevelt elk bulls, and a handful of mule & Blacktail bucks. That 127 grain LRX has proven to be very effective for us, even on the elk. I haven’t had a reason to try any different bullet.

I’m planning to take this rifle and load to Zambia in October.

I did the exact same scope and rings/mounts.

On game, the Accubond is hard to beat in the 06 and 270, and in my 9.3x62 that Ive shot a lot of game with.

Hopefully, we will find out next week how the 264 tackles game.

I too have had great success with the Accubond on my 35 Whelen, 270 Win, and 7mm STW.

Trying a case, then I’ll walk straight out of the courthouse, get in my truck, and head to Alabama to hunt some pigs.

The problem is I’m looking for eating pigs.

Good luck finding some eaters!

My experience with the 6.5 in both the Creedmoor and .26 Nosler (so brackets your use) was that:

Tipped TSX did not give the accuracy desired.

Accubond LR was the most accurate bullet in the .26, but unfortunately the bullets came apart on impact at 150 yards on a pronghorn- ruining about half of the meat. The animal was DRT, but the effect was more varmint bullet than big game hunting bullet. On contacting Nosler, I was told that was expected performance at that range with the .26.

Regular accubonds wanted to group about 2” in the .26.

Partitions grouped around 1.5”

Scirocco groups right at 1”.

The Creedmoor shoots everything sub 1”. Too bad it’s a Sako TRG and really too heavy for what it is to want to carry on a hunt. I might use it for stand deer hunting if they change our laws here.

With the .26, I’m not sure if I’m going to use the 130 grain scirocco or the 140 partition if I hunt it again… my .300 RUM shoots much better, and while it does beat me up more, it’s not like I’m shooting a box of ammo a day hunting, so that may be the better longer range big game choice for me (given I tend to shoot less than 600 yards regardless, I probably don’t “need” either, but the idea was long point blank range so no fiddling with turrets while hunting…)

My accuracy w 130 grain Accubonds has been 6 shots under an inch with a SD 11.2.

I30 is not a lot of mass. We will see, meat pigs are not a challenge.

I found 180 grain sciroccos to be my best choice in my 30/378 weatherby.
They seemed to hold up to the high velocity
Better than the accubonds , and they were accurate.

My friends use the same bullet in their 300 ultra mags , for same reasons.

I have had great success with Nosler 140 gr Partitions in my 6.5-06 on pigs and whitetails. Groups very well and still haven't recovered a bullet.

I’ve used a lot of AB’s and never had need for anything better…BUT the Scirocco probably performs better on game by a bit IMO. A friend used the 150 7mm in his 7mm RSAUM in Africa recently on quite a few plains animals and his words were those bullets are no joke. Extremely good performance. Only thing better so far is the Federal Terminal Ascent. So far the 130’s in 6.5 PRC, 175’s in 300 WSM, 200’s in 300 PRC and getting ready to try the 155’s in the 7mm RSAUM. All around excellent expansion w/ great penetration. A great bullet to try also but I’d not think twice about using the Scirocco’s.

I use them in my 264 WM at 3,200 fps on whitetails and hogs. It's no joke a hammer.
Expansion and retained weight is a bit better than the AB in my opinion.

Perry

I use the 180 grain .308 inch Sciroccos in my .300 RUM.

That combo has been The Hammer of Doom.

Also known as Death on Arrival.

I have also used them to good effect in .30-06.

I’m looking forward to trying them in my .300 H&H Mag.

I have not used the Sciroccos in smaller calibers.

In my 300 RUM the 200gr Accubond has been absolutely stellar…out to a looong damnded ways away.