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I have had great experiences w .277 140 grain Accubond, .358 225 Grain Accubond, and .284 160 grain Accubonds.

I am collecting bullets to try out int .264 WM.

Currently, I have corelockts for barrel break in, 140 grain Northforks, and 140 grain Aframes heading in.


However, how does the Swift Scieocco compare to the Accubond. Looking to try a 130 grain bullet in one of these options as well.

Has anyone used these specific bullets? If so, what are your observations?

I know the Sirocco uses a pure copper jacket.

O know get both pick the one that shoots the best. Let us set that aside for a minute and discuss the pros and cons of these two bullets generally (and specifically the 130 .264s if anyone has used them).
 
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I have a box of the Swift Scirocco II 130 gr. to test out of the 6.5mm before I order up a small pile of the bullets. Just waiting on Spring to arrive.

I've been told they can be finicky to settle in with some barrels; I'll just have to see for myself.

The 140 NAB is easy-peasy to work up a hunting load in the 6.5mm, and I've used them on old, dry elk cows without any drama, but I've never tried the NAB-LR bullet.
 
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Yes, I will not be using the NALR.

1) It is really too long for the 1:9 twist.
2) It does not have a good reputation for performance/bonded weight retention inside 400 yards.
3) It is very thin jacketed.


It was 60 degrees here yesterday. So, I can catch good weather to play. It will be 90 in the late spring.
 
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In tests I found the SCII to retain more weight, penetrate further and form a larger reliable mushroom than the AB. This was testing 180gr .30's fired from a MV of around 2900fps at media placed at 25m or so.

That is the only calibre and weight in which I did a side by side test of the AB and SCII. I have also found the SCII to be a bit difficult to tune at times - 150gr 7mm, 180gr .30 and 210gr .338, but one cannot really generalise about this type of thing. Due to the jacket material the SCII can be a little more "sticky" than some others and seemed to top out a bit sooner.

I am a big North Fork fanboy and was the South African importer. I have also just recently started working with a 264 Win Mag (1960's Sako). I shot some 129gr Hdy IL with 7828 just to get a sense as to whether the rifle may shoot and was very pleasantly surprised. I've loaded up some 120gr North Forks (still US made) to try with VV N570. My rifle is still of the very short throated design (despite a cavernous mag box!) so I lose a lot of case capacity with the heavier bullets.

Please let us know what propellant you choose and share your results.
 
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Testing bullets in media is pointless!

Nothing works like meat and bone and blood!

Even then you will get results that sometimes defy explanations!


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Yes, I will not be using the NALR.

1) It is really too long for the 1:9 twist.
2) It does not have a good reputation for performance/bonded weight retention inside 400 yards.
3) It is very thin jacketed.


LHeym500,

Is this from personal experience?

Reason for asking is, I have been using the 175gr ABLR in my 7mm Rem for about 4 years now. Velocity is just over 2900.

I am used to getting pass throughs on medium sized plainsgame. Furthest distance was around 380yards and closest was under 30yards. The largest animal I took was a Mtn Nyala (600-650LBS) at 120yards. The recovered bullet was perfectly mushroomed and held together.

Just curious as I am now a bit worried since reading the other thread about the ABLR as well. Leaving shortly on a safari and it is my preferred setup.
 
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LHeym, not the bullet you’re asking about, but I’ve pretty much settled on the Barnes 127 grain LRX in my .264.

Over the life of my original pre-64 factory barrel, I mostly shot 140 grain bullets, usually CoreLokt’s and they performed very well. But then I was going on a Coues Deer hunt and tried some 120 grain Nosler Solid Base and shot a 0.117” 3-shot group so I used that a bit but went back to 140’s, just because.

Five years ago, I had to re-barrel so decided to have my rifle builder do a complete overhaul. He pillar bedded my existing Brown Precision stock, fitted a 26” Krieger match grade barrel with 1-8” twist, barrel is a heavy sporter in I think #4 contour but could be wrong. Timney trigger set to 2 3/4 lbs, topped with a Leupold VX5HD in 3-15x with CDS turret & Firedot reticle, set in Talley rings.

Time to work up a new load and he suggested we try the 127 LRX as some of his customers were reporting great results with that bullet. He started with a load he’d been using for some other customers, 65 grains of RL26, 215 Federal primer, 3,220 fps. First group measured 0.335” so we’ve never tried a different load. It’s basically a varmint rifle, but in .264 win mag.

With this new load we’ve shot a desert ram, several Roosevelt elk bulls, and a handful of mule & Blacktail bucks. That 127 grain LRX has proven to be very effective for us, even on the elk. I haven’t had a reason to try any different bullet.

I’m planning to take this rifle and load to Zambia in October.
 
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I did the exact same scope and rings/mounts.
 
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