25-06....what is the advantage?....updated...updated again!

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28 January 2022, 05:59

Lamar

25-06....what is the advantage?....updated...updated again!

well if he wants to use what 'everyone' in Wyoming uses he needs a 7mm rem. magnum.
by everyone I mean people that live in places like green river, or rocks spring, or douglas, Shoshone, or lander.
my 25-06 was looked down upon as a 'non magnum' or AKA not a 270 for the wife.

I got some sweet used rifles off the trade in racks for pretty good prices because of that.

29 January 2022, 04:42

Buglemintoday

quote:
Originally posted by Lamar:
I got some sweet used rifles off the trade in racks for pretty good prices because of that.

I like that

I like the idea of a .25-06. Easy to load for. Pretty speedy. If I didn't already have a nice .257 Wby I would get one. You can never have too many firearms.

30 January 2022, 22:20

Atkinson

Inuit of the N0rth have gone modern, the have moved on to the big stuff, the 222 and 223!!! 458 says a store in the far North has or had at one time shelves of 25-35 factory special order solids for shooting seal..

BTW no update to this thread, it never changes,equel vs. equel and everything in between dominates the conversation!! balistic masterbation rules

22 April 2022, 09:52

surefire7

quote:
Originally posted by surefire7:
My wife and I have taken around 60 Antelope over the years with a 25-06 mainly, and a 280 Rem. sometimes. Both are excellent at their work. She uses a 25-06 exclusively, and I’ve used it about 80% of the time.

While the 280 & 270 work wonderfully on Antelope, we have used our 25-06s mainly for the rifles we own. She and I both own Ruger Express rifles in this caliber. I believe there were only (6) of these rifles produced by Ruger in 25-06, (and never catalogued), (8) at the most, so we cherish our time hunting with them. I also use my Dakota Classic Deluxe in 25-06 a lot also. These rifles add a new pleasure to our Pronghorn hunts.

22 April 2022, 17:01

Seamaster

I will bet that a good aftermarket barrel chambered in 25-06 would be a nice improvement from a Winchester factory tube.

I have rifles chambered in both cartridges and do not see much difference on medium sized game unless the 270 is using a heavier bullet (i.e. 150 grains).

23 April 2022, 02:18

Jason P

quote:
Originally posted by Lamar:
well if he wants to use what 'everyone' in Wyoming uses he needs a 7mm rem. magnum.
by everyone I mean people that live in places like green river, or rocks spring, or douglas, Shoshone, or lander.
my 25-06 was looked down upon as a 'non magnum' or AKA not a 270 for the wife.

I got some sweet used rifles off the trade in racks for pretty good prices because of that.

Lamar: You’ve been watching too many Eastman hunting shows. Everyone in Wyoming shoots a 30-30

29 April 2022, 03:12

jerrymontgomery

I've shot about equal numbers of deer with a 270 and 25-06 and have seen no difference in effectiveness. Most of these deer have been small; AZ whitetail and Columbian blacktail, but a few mulies thrown in.

Most significant difference to me is that most 270's have a 22" barrel and most 25-06's are 24. which affects the weight.

I've used a number of bullets in the 270 and have no complaints on any of them, and mostly use 115 Ballistic Tips in the 25.

Someone mentioned the 110 Barnes in the 270, I've not used them but my brother has had good luck with them.

30 April 2022, 20:57

Timan

He should set it up with a 1-8 twist for his bullet.
https://bergerbullets.com/prod...-grain-elite-hunter/

01 May 2022, 00:58

Michael Robinson

A .25-06 is perfect for light to medium game when you might have to reach out to long range. I say go for it!

01 May 2022, 05:23

pointblank

I’ve used many cartridges over the years, mainly on deer. In my early years, one of my favorite rifles was a 700, in 25-06. I made the mistake of turning it into a 7 Mag, because I wanted to reach out a little further. What I got was a lot more recoil, and marginally flatter trajectory. In my mind, not worth the trade off. Loaded with 100 grain bullets, the 25-06 shoots flat enough for reasonable hunting range, and kicks little more than a 243. In my older age I prefer a .257 AI, on a self built Mauser. Of all my hunting buddies that aren’t really shooters, ALL have rifles that are far bigger than necessary to kill the critters we hunt. Most can’t shoot them for shit, as they flinch every time they pull the trigger. I just don’t get it.

03 May 2022, 08:34

Atkinson

If I know where a monster buck or bull is hanging out then my 338 is probably going to be my choice as I want as much edge as I can get..BUt, if Im just hunting and pokeing around and enjoying the hunting, I will have a 30/30, a 25-35 Win, or my old and dear 250-3000 tD savage 99..I don't usually care about the caliber of my rifle, I just conform it its abilities and hunt to suit the gun..Same with bow, pistol or muzzle loader..
No flys on the 25-06 or the 270, and not any difference in the field other than the 270 has the supposed advantage of a 160 bullet, and I think thats corrrect in that its more effective out yonder...

My only real requirement for a deer or elk rifle, it must be loaded!

04 May 2022, 03:41

df06

All any of us NEED is a 30/06, 12 ga and 22 rimfire.
The 25/06 is a great long range deer, antelope cartridge. I’ve owned one since 1974 and have enjoyed many successes with it.
Let the poor guy get a 25/06 if he wants one.

09 May 2022, 00:33

Atkinson

Lord I hope I live to see the day that I can tell the difference in 8.4" and 9.2" at 400 yards!!Was that off hand or with a rest on a rock?

I guess I will just have to settle between 110 grs and 130 grs. for killing power at 400 also?

Damn some of you guys can split the proverbial and meaningless hair!!

09 May 2022, 19:03

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by Jason P:
quote:
Originally posted by Lamar:
well if he wants to use what 'everyone' in Wyoming uses he needs a 7mm rem. magnum.
by everyone I mean people that live in places like green river, or rocks spring, or douglas, Shoshone, or lander.
my 25-06 was looked down upon as a 'non magnum' or AKA not a 270 for the wife.

I got some sweet used rifles off the trade in racks for pretty good prices because of that.

Lamar: You’ve been watching too many Eastman hunting shows. Everyone in Wyoming shoots a 30-30

And in Maine...

11 May 2022, 23:26

boom stick

25-06 works in a 25-06 is a pretty big advantage

20 June 2022, 02:35

Atkinson

I think everyone in the world has at least one 30-30, were talking about the second best gun!!

20 June 2022, 04:26

Hipshoot

quote:
Originally posted by Atkinson:
Lord I hope I live to see the day that I can tell the difference in 8.4" and 9.2" at 400 yards!!Was that off hand or with a rest on a rock?

I guess I will just have to settle between 110 grs and 130 grs. for killing power at 400 also?

Damn some of you guys can split the proverbial and meaningless hair!!

PLUS ONE!

Years ago a guy I ran into was pushing his 7mm RM which is (in my opinion) no better than a .30-06 except it uses a little more powder and more expensive brass!

Hip

P.S. I own both!

12 July 2022, 20:30

Atkinson

IMO the 7 mag, has little to offer balistically and I much prefer a 270 or more likely a 30-06..The 7 mag needs a 26 inch barrel to get where its what it claims, and its heavy, I worked with one or two and about all I gained was recoil and blast, my chronograph doesnt lie..

25 July 2022, 06:06

A.J.2

Better than the .257 WBY?

26 July 2022, 15:54

p dog shooter

quote:
Originally posted by A.J.2:
Better than the .257 WBY?

Define better.

27 July 2022, 18:57

cowboy77845

I traded off my 25-06 and my 270 for a 257 Weatherby and a 270 Weatherby and have never looked back. IMO the 257 Weatherby is one of the finest 25 caliber rounds out there and I wish I had gotten one sooner. Recoil is not a problem. 270 Weatherby is in a BAR and is fun to shoot.

29 July 2022, 03:33

A.J.2

quote:
Originally posted by cowboy77845:
* * * IMO the 257 Weatherby is one of the finest 25 caliber rounds out there and I wish I had gotten one sooner. Recoil is not a problem.

Yeah, I agree. Further reach and greater down-range punch than a 25-06 and more accurate as well.

The 257 WBY cartridge was supposedly Roy’s favorite in the WBY line.

01 November 2022, 21:11

Atkinson

257 Wby is a good caliber, but if one can tell the difference in it and a 270, he has been reading too many ballistic charts or hunting magazines..My main complaint about some of these guns and especially the Wbys is blood shot carcasses.

keep in mind that down range a 257 Wby is ballistically a 25-35 or a 25-20, and therein lies the weakness in small calibers and long range hunting..Just my opine..

08 November 2022, 08:52

Lamar

the biggest problem with the 257 weatherby is nobody but weatherby makes one.
nobody makes ammo either.

if I could find a decent rifle[bergara/ruger/win.] for 800 bucks, Brass, and some 115gr. N/P's.
I'd own another one trick pony type rifle.

10 December 2022, 00:46

Atkinson

Long range Antelope and deer rifles are a joke, one thing it causes more wounded animals..AND evertime I packed LR rifle around, I ended up shooting deer or antelope at under 100 yards, same for sheep and goats. These animals got a reputation for long range shots from gun magazines, not experienced hunter it seems to me..Hunters who hunt get close, shooters are long range guys..All at some time in there hunting life take poor shots at long distance and wound game, thats a given, so as one ages he gets closer and closer before the shot is taken..At least thats the way it should work out..

10 December 2022, 15:41

p dog shooter

quote:
Long range Antelope and deer rifles are a joke, one thing it causes more wounded animals..AND evertime I packed LR rifle around, I ended up shooting deer or antelope at under 100 yards, same for sheep and goats.

Having the capability to make a longer range shot is nice. I carry my 300WM because I can. I have many different calibers that would work.

The longest shot I took out west at a big game animal was 312 yards results dead elk. The closest was 25 or so results dead mule deer.

I was going to shoot a mule deer last year at 412. But the early morning sun flare made taking the shot impossible.

There are many factors one has to take into consideration.

When it is time to shoot. The effect on the bullet by them is often reduce the closer you are to the target.

Know you abilities and your limits and hunt within them.

16 December 2023, 01:38

Bill/Oregon

KW, I'd call that a perfect ending.

16 December 2023, 02:35

K W Johnston

Well dang...I went back to edit my post for grammar and accidentally deleted whole thing!

02 February 2024, 04:32

Atkinson

having killed deer and elk and with a 25-35 and 250-3000 Id be shank Haultered and Gilflurted to discourage their use and like the 270 and 30-06 they all worked well enough.

07 June 2024, 02:12

Atkinson

I got a kick out of the drop figures of the 110 gr 270 bullet and it may drop 7 or 8 inches, but it drops a couple of feet sideways in the Idaho breezes..Balistic dudes charts are quoted from books and not on a target or Rock Chuck at those long ranges. reading the wind is the hard part. Whats even worse is hd over in Rock Creek canyon UPDRAFT, I like the 130 gr.

P Dog said it all, "know your capabilities"

08 June 2024, 01:31

phurley5

I don't shoot a 25-06 but do shoot a .257 Weatherby Accumark and consider it one of my Bean Field rifles along with the .270 WSM. The Weatherby gets 3600 fps with a 100 grain Nosler T-Tip with half inch accuracy. The .270 WSM gets 3450 fps with 130 grain Northfork with ragged hole accuracy. The Weatherby wears a 6X24 Burris Signature and the WSM a 6X20 Ziess Conquest. The WSM is a Model 70 Winchester Deluxe Featherweight. Good Shooting.

24 August 2024, 23:42

Atkinson

The trouble with those 1000 yard shots is the fun begins when you have to gut them and pack them out.

My dad put his hand on my shoulder and said "Son killing that elk is like masterbation,once ya pull the trigger you gotta a hell of a mess on your hands. you better go get your elk and meet me at the pickup" Lesson learned, 3 day pack out and thankful to have had a couple of friends. laughing and saying your old mans a hoot!

25 August 2024, 01:02

fjrdoc

I got a laugh out of that Ray. I never hunted elk but......

31 January 2025, 00:38

Atkinson

Keep in mind, not much difference in making a 100 yd shot at an Antelope with a 25-35 than a 300 yd shot at a big bull elk. One is further but much bigger. Has anyone around this thread considered that? or have I missed something? then keep in mind that both kill near equally at there given range..Its called leveling the playing field!!

31 January 2025, 01:29

Fjold

For long range, more important than trajectory is accuracy. Gravity is a constant so the trajectory makes no difference under 1,000 yards. Wind is the bigger factor since it varies in strength and direction multiple times over long distances.

What really matters the most though is whether your gun and you can put the bullet on the target at that range.

Frank

"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953

NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite

01 February 2025, 16:45

dogcat

I have an HS Precision .25-06 that shoots 1/2” with three different factory loads. I love it.
However, I shoot antelope and everything else with my .280 Rem. Why?
No reason other than I do.

If he needs a 25-06, I will sell him mine at 60% less than what HS will build one for him…

14 April 2025, 10:38

JLHeard

I love my .257Wby. 100grn TTSX’s all day long.

It is not enough to fight for natural land and the west; it is even more important to enjoy it...So get out there and hunt and fish and mess around with your friends...

- Edward Abbey

15 April 2025, 04:25

Fjold

Oh, and I don't own a 30/30.

15 April 2025, 07:16

Lamar

that's cause I got 4 of them,,, no 5 of them.
forgot about the carbine.

whatever,, one of them would have probably been yours, but I got to it first.

15 April 2025, 18:19

df06

Bought my first 25-06 in 1974. Killed quite a few deer and some antelope with it. It’s a great long and short range deer size critter cartridge. There’s no need to debate 25-05 vs 270 vs 280 etc. they all work just fine. If he wants a 25-06, let him be. And make the barrel at least 24”.