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I'm having a couple of Highwalls built, a 30-40 Krag and a standard .219 Zipper. The Zipper is mostly for nostalgic reasons. I'll have to use other brass for the Zipper, so I'd like to get pointers on making brass from 30-30 or 25-35 and loading the cartridge. I'm getting the rifle made with 1/8 twist so that I can shoot 65 grain bullets if I want to, although I suspect that most of the time I'll shoot 55 grainers. I have many other .22 centerfires, from Hornets to 22-250 Ackley Improved, so I don't need to squeeze the last bit of velocity out of the cartridge. It'll be used as a lightweight walking-around rifle. I'd be very happy with 2800 fps with the 65 grainers and 3000 fps with the 55s.

Allan


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Any number of older reloading manuals will have info on 219 zipper. I have not done so but I would be willing to be you can do a google search on "reload data for 219 Zipper" and find some stuff.

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I have an old Speer Manual that has 219 Zipper loads in it. The heaviest bullet listed is the 55 gn bullet.
Loads are, for the 55 gn bullet:

IMR-4350, 28.0 to 32.o gns
IMR-4320, 25.0 to 29.0 gns
IMR-4895, 25.0 to 29.0 gns
IMR-3031, 24.0 to 27.0 gns

If you decide to shoot 50 gn bullets, or lighter, the manual suggest that IMR-4198 is best.
If you want lighter weight bullet data, let me know. The Speer manual lists 40 gn bullets as the lightest weight bullet they tested.

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5th edition Sierra Manual for 55 grain

IMR 4198 20.5 @ 2900 to 21.0 @ 3000
IMR-3031 21.6 @ 2900 to 24.6 @ 3200
IMR-4895 23.0 @ 2900 to 27.0 @ 3300
IMR-4064 23.2 @ 2900 to 26.1 @ 3200
IMR-4320 24.5 @ 2900 to 29.0 @ 3300
H380 26.0 @ 3100 to 30.0 @ 3300
Accuracy load IMR-4895 26.0 Grains @ 3200fps
Hunting load IMR-4895 27.0 grains @ 3300fps

Hornady 5th edition lists loads for 60 grain
the manual says the 60 grain VMAX and hollow point will not stabilize in a 1-14" or slower twist.

H4198 20.1 @ 3100 to 23.5 @ 3500
IMR-3031 22.3 @ 3100 to 25.8 @ 3500
BL-C2 23.2 @ 3100 to 26.6 @ 3500
H4895 23.9 @ 3100 to 27.4 @ 3500
IMR-4064 24.0 @ 3100 to 28.3 @ 3600
IMR-4320 24.8 @ 3100 to 29.4 @ 3600
H380 25.6 @ 3100 to 31.1 @ 3600

Brad


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I shipped the actions off last week to American Gun Company to be completed. They tell me 6 weeks to complete them. I don't believe that for a minute. Six months is probably closer. I have a custom Ruger No 3 in 30-40, so I'm ready with ammo for that rifle. I just found a quantity of 30-30 brass, and 100 new 25-35 cases, and I ordered dies and bullets. I hope I'm ready with ammo by the time the rifles are delivered. Would anyone know if I need to fireform the 30-30 cases or just run them through the Zipper dies? I know I'll have to trim cases, and probably anneal the necks after all that work hardening. Fortunately I have .25-35 dies, so I'll run the cases through those dies first before going to the Zipper dies.
Thanks for all the help.

Allan


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