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It's still between them. ;-) | |||
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Actually it goes from 22 to 416 and I have a barrel/rifle in all of those cals except for the 375 which I used the 8mm case and the 416 which I designed a case for a Marlin 336 Lever action but never found the round toit to do it. There was also a 23 cal, half way between the 22 and 24 cal, that someone did way back. Good thing the net wasn't available then...the poor guy(or girl) would be flayed alive and all the other modern day vilification's. Doesn't matter tho'...the 6mm's and 6.5's have been killing things internationally since they first came out and my "little" 6mm FB originally and now 6 BR will take deer just as effectively as a 22LR IF you put the bullet where it belongs... NOT to take this weenee roast down another road. I'm pretty sure there is a 6.5 FB out there somewhere possibly, I KNOW there is a 6.5 TC/U AKA 6.5x223 and some of those "cartridges were knocking over steel plates out to 500 yds...WAY BACK in the day. Good Hunting | |||
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Amen.... same applies to the 6.5 Creedmore also. Shoot Safe, Mike NRA Endowment Member | |||
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I like the idea of the .260, but I'll never buy one because I have been shooting a 6.5x55 since before the .260 was invented, so I never saw the point. Amen.... same applies to the 6.5 Creedmore also.[/quote] right... if you have a .260 rem. you don't need a 6.5 creed | |||
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I am fixing to buy another 260 Remington.I.have barrels of 308 brass to.make my 260 brass from.Always remember the ammo brass shortage of the oboma days it's coming again next demirat ! | |||
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Lipsey's just listed a special run of Ruger 77 RSI (full stock) with 18 1/2" barrel in .260. | |||
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I have a lot of 260s, 20+ IIRC. I jumped on the 260 in 10/97, before factory ammo was on the shelves, and have killed numerous animals with them. Depending on the rifle and the intended use, I've loaded a lot of different bullets, makes and styles, for the 260 and have decided that for me, I like the following: 100 grain BT and Partition 120 grain BT 129 grain Hornady, matching bullet style to target 130 grain AB 140 grain Partition if the ROT is fast enough If I was limited to one bullet weight and style it would be the 130 grain AB, as it does everything that I need a bullet to do when fired from a 260. I have a 3-rifle set of Ruger 77 Hawkeyes in 223, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 338 Federal that I have set up with McMillan Hunter style stocks. If the 6.5 Creedmoor hadn't come along, I would have opted for a stainless 77 MK2 in 260. | |||
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That's good stuff right there. We're going to start loading for my son's Tikka CTR in 260. I hope those 130 AB's are as accurate in his 260 as they are my 6.5CM. I have those, the 140 partition, and 129 LRAB to try first. Any load data you wish to share would be welcome (PM if you'd rather). Thanks. | |||
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Being a lover of the M-70 rifle and it wasn't available in the .260 Remington cartridge, I purchased one in .243, removed and sold off the barrel and barreled it to the .260 Remington. Truth be, it didn't kill deer any better than my 6.5 X 55 Swede built on a VZ-24 and actually didn't prove inadequate compared to my .264 Magnum....it's a very fine round for sure. As to the Creedmoor.......I have little doubt that it too will get the job done......that said....I'll never understand the (apparent) hysteria for it.....have we created an entire generation of couch commandos? /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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the Creedmore is the result of a fantastic advertising campaign and a hungry public..Something new has been the golden egg in the firearms industry for years, but that's a good thing, not bad..Gives up more toys.. Bottom line of this thread is they are equal in every respect, despite all the pros and cons and tech experts...they bot almost equal the 250-3000 of yesteryear! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Here are 3 things that have contributed to the 6.5 Creedmoor's rapid popularity: 1. The 6.5 Creedmoor's short case allows for longer/heavier VLD bullets to work in all popular short action magazines better than the 260. 2. 6.5 Creedmoor rifles were made with 1-8" ROT barrels from the start, so there weren't any problems stabilizing those longer/heavier VLD that the 1-9" 260s had. 3. There are more factory loaded ammo options for the 6.5 Creedmoor than for the 260, it is often less expensive, and more widely available, even at many Wal-Mart stores. 4. I have several rifles chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor and don't think that it is a better option than the 260 if a person loads his/her own ammo and can select a component bullet that work through the rifle's magazine and stabilizes in the rifles ROT. Remington did a terrible job of launching the 260 back in 1997 and it never overcame the poor start. The product launch was so poorly done that I have long wondered if somebody at Remington purposely sabotaged it. | |||
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^^There weren't as many wannabe long range snipers in 1997 as there are now. More and more I'm liking a 24" barrel 270 win. | |||
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A nice cartridge for sure; but what speed does the .250 Savage drive a 140 gr bullet to. ;-) And what does it spit that delivers 2,200 ft lbs of energy at 300 yards? | |||
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Well, yes, true, all valid points, but I went to the dictionary and didn't find definitions of the words deader or deadest. It seems there is only dead. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I think people miss the boat on the why and how of the 6.5 Creedmoor or any other cartridge in this class. First and foremost it was designed as a competition cartridge and a very specific competition at that. The competition of long range shooting Given a blank page and a request to fulfill a specific requirement in terms what is the most desirable traits of a long range competition cartridge this option ticks of many of the boxes if not all of the boxes. The name of the game can be summarized in one single word and that is statistical precision. From a internal ballistics cycle perspective little more that can be designed into a cartridge other than perhaps a small rifle primer as standard feature and not a large rifle primer as it is currently offered. ( Lapua did change their brass offering to this spec ) There are many 6.5s out there, some new some old and ballistically they are not the same ! Whilst they are loaded with the very same bullet and may be launched in the same velocity range the statistical variance in real time ballistic conditions at time of the bullet egress from the barrel is where they differ and ultimately is important when ranges exceed 600 m. | |||
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The Creedmore is 4-500 yard deer gun. Or good for punching paper. Nothing special. But don't tell Hornady that. | |||
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