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23 January 2012, 23:23
Fat_Albert
17 Hor Hornet
Dose anyone have the case dimentions of the 17 Hornady Hornet. Just got off phone with Hor tech(?????) and yes they sell the ammo but they don"t have a case drawing. He said that I could go out and buy a box and take dimentions off case. Right!!!
24 January 2012, 19:40
Fasteel
I believe if you go over to Saubier.com and there is a thread on this new round with a chamber drawing. FS
24 January 2012, 21:37
Fat_Albert
I found the chamber drawing at Small Cal. Forum and it is from Pacific Tool (8/2007) and it look like Hornady built in a wide neck so you can't uses 22Hor brass to make the case so that you would need to buy their brass. It looks like it has almost the same cap. as a 17AH case.
25 January 2012, 19:29
seafire/B17G
all it is, is the old K Hornet necked down to 17 caliber...

so 22 Hornet brass will work... it just needs to be made into the K Hornet ( forming dies) and then necked down to 17 Caliber..

or as I understand it... just neck down the hornet to 17 caliber, and the K Hornet shoulder will be formed when first fired...

I'm thinking it will become a pretty popular round with high volume shooters in varmint fields...

for those inquiring minds tho, a large case, like the 17 Fireball or 17 Rem, or 17/222 can be loaded to similar specs, and using some of the same powders that the factory will use...

like Lil'Gun and AA 1680...
26 January 2012, 04:50
MickinColo
This is not my drawing. It dates back to 1984. It’s not a new idea if the new Hornady is truly based on a Hornet case with these dimensions. Just because it’s not a new idea doesn’t make it a bad idea.





PS, The 17 and 20 grain bullets are pretty quick in this round with a 24 inch barrel.
26 January 2012, 05:58
boom stick
I was at the show and have some fired cases and a loaded round. It's in transit and needs to be shipped to me since all I had was a carry on. I'll get it in a few days.


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26 January 2012, 16:56
ron williams
If you watch Hornadys video on the 17 Hornet, toward the end it shows the two rounds side by side, it looks to me that the 17 Hornet case is a tad shorter than its parent. However I may be incorrect.


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26 January 2012, 21:43
Fat_Albert
Hornady chamber neck is 0.006" larger than the 17A Hornet.
27 January 2012, 05:21
MickinColo
It looks like a “wait and see” cartridge. Who is going to chamber it?
27 January 2012, 16:19
seafire/B17G
quote:
Who is going to chamber it?


Savage and Ruger so far...

Ruger in their 77/17 model revamped 77/22 Hornet action...

Savage in their 25 series which they already make for 22 Hornet..
27 January 2012, 18:14
MickinColo
Interesting. Those little 77s are cute, I wouldn’t mind playing with this combo to see what it’ll do.
27 January 2012, 20:38
Fat_Albert
There is a bad point and a good point with this new 17HH case. You will not beable to make cases out of 22 Hornet unless you want a slopy neck. And the good point if you have a 22 Hornet rifle with a stardard neck you can get brass that can be turned down to fit the neck.
28 January 2012, 08:25
Alberta Canuck
I don't know poop about the Hornady version of this round, but I have been shooting a factory-made .17 AI Hornet since somewhere around 1984...possibly '85 or even '86 (this is one of my few rifles that I don't remember when I bought it, though I do remember where and the sales clerk's name).

Anyway, I think it is a remendous little round. Quite accurate, cases last much longer than standard Hornet cases, virtually no recoil so it is easy to spot your own shots, and it is deadly on varmints up to skunk, 'dillo, possums, or slightly larger at 125 yards.

Oh yeh, my factory rifle...Kimber of Oregon Super-America. NO! It's NOT for sale.
05 February 2012, 13:43
gumboot458
It sounds like it would be a dandy fine round for calling fox . And be used in the same other roles I would use a 22lr for .. Mainly shooting marauding squirells trying to get in the cabin . And its reloadable .
Anyone know how fast it pushes a 20 gr bullet ??


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05 February 2012, 19:40
Doubless
Not to hijack this thread, but the 22-K works just fine. Why try to fix something that isn't broken?
05 February 2012, 23:48
gumboot458
For me . I see no reason to get another rifle in the same caliber as my 223 . I can just light load it and get Hornet velocities . . I always thot the 17hmr was a good idea . Just not enuf velocity and not reloadable . This 17 Hornet should be the cats meow for saving fur and general fun / pest control . I would like to see Barnes come out with a TSX in a 20gr 17 cal. .

I hunted around on Hornady's web site and found this round . 3600fps . 6" of drop @300 urds . Still over 2000fps at 300 . Sounds perfact to me . .


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26 March 2012, 04:35
Moorepower
The cool think thing is the barrel does not even get much more than warm, when shooting at a decent pace. Mine is a rechambered 17HMR on a break open N.E.F. The 8lb. trigger kept me from shooting tiny groups, but every group had two of the three 1/4" or less apart but the 3rd shot opened groups to 1 1/8". With a trigger job I think I will be very happy.
27 March 2012, 09:59
bracer
The reloading data Hornady sent me : A Max load of 10.1 Gr of LilGun powder developed a MV of 3,750 ft/sec with a 20 Gr bullet. The same velocity was listed for a Max load of 12.4 Gr of A 1680 powder. The 25 Gr HP bullet MV of 3359 ft/sec was listed using Max 9.2 Gr of Lil Gun powder. WRS primers were used in Hornady cases, The barrel length was 24 inches with a 1 in 9 inch twist. Whenever a rifle come out that I like I,ll have one.
27 March 2012, 10:16
boom stick
It's a cute round. I want a 22-17 Hornet Smiler


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